Hi Larry, Nice to hear from you that you are planning propose new features and make active.
We do use Livy in our prod clusters, any chance to include us in your proposal so that we can also contribute. On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 3:54 AM, larry mccay <lmc...@apache.org> wrote: > Sure. > Thanks, Craig. > > --larry > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2022, 5:38 PM Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Larry, > > > > > On Oct 8, 2022, at 10:30, larry mccay <lmc...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > Good to hear, Jean-Baptiste! > > > We will send the proposal both here and to the Livy private list, I > > guess. > > > Once we come to an agreement and direction we can share with the dev@ > > and > > > user@ lists. > > > > I support the effort to revive the Livy podling, but I'd advise against > > using the private list to discuss it. The incubator general list is > public > > and the livy dev list is public, so these are the lists I'd suggest you > use > > for further discussion. > > > > Again, good luck with the effort, > > Craig > > > > > > Thanks again! > > > > > > --larry > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 12:49 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Larry, > > >> > > >> Agree with Claude: if we can have concrete proposal (in terms of > > >> community and roadmap), it's OK. We are not in a rush, if we can have > > >> this in the commit weeks, it's fine. > > >> I would sent this on the Livy mailing list. > > >> > > >> Again, I would be more than happy to help and contribute on Livy. > > >> > > >> Regards > > >> JB > > >> > > >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 6:08 PM larry mccay <lmc...@apache.org> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I was hoping that we could bring a set of contributors as: > > >>> > > >>> * mentors - 1 or 2 plus whoever wants to remain > > >>> * PPMC/Committers - 2 or 3 plus whoever wants to remain > > >>> * election of a PPMC chair if needed > > >>> > > >>> Also open it up for folks to ask to join (as well as go emeritus) as > I > > >> know > > >>> there are others that have tried to contribute and have gotten know > > where > > >>> or have long since decided it wasn't worth trying anymore. > > >>> > > >>> So, my thought was almost a new Proposal and solicitation for > community > > >>> bootstrap with a few seeds planted to help it grow. > > >>> I was also considering a goal of getting it back off the ground with > > some > > >>> number of releases and proof of health as a project to fast track to > a > > >>> graduation discussion. > > >>> A bit early to talk about that now but that was a detail that I > thought > > >>> would possibly go into such a reboot proposal. > > >>> > > >>> @Jean-Baptiste - we have compiled a list of features/improvements > that > > we > > >>> would be able to bring to the table with the reboot as well. > > >>> These are improvements that have been made internally due the sense > of > > >> not > > >>> being able to get them in. I lack the details around the attempts at > > this > > >>> time but we would be bringing source as well. > > >>> We could list these as part of the proposal/concrete plans. > > >>> > > >>> If you think this proposal can be done more casually, that's fine > too. > > I > > >>> just would like to make it clear that we would open it up to new > folks > > as > > >>> well. > > >>> > > >>> However you'd like to see it done, we can have concrete commitments > to > > >> you > > >>> within a week or so more than likely. > > >>> > > >>> BTW, I did note that Ambari was sent to the attic and then pulled > back > > >> out > > >>> [1] back in June into July of this year. > > >>> I would hope that we could avoid the administrative headache that > seems > > >> to > > >>> have been involved in that reinstatement. > > >>> > > >>> 1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-205 > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 11:04 AM Claude Warren, Jr > > >>> <claude.war...@aiven.io.invalid> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Larry et.al. > > >>>> > > >>>> I think we need concrete steps. So if Larry produced a list of new > > >>>> committers could we get them added to the list and see if > development > > >>>> starts again? > > >>>> > > >>>> Mentors / Champion does that work for you? > > >>>> > > >>>> Larry, can you produce such a list? > > >>>> > > >>>> Is there an objection to proceeding along these lines? > > >>>> > > >>>> Claude > > >>>> > > >>>> On Fri 7 Oct 2022, 03:07 Jean-Baptiste Onofré, <j...@nanthrax.net> > > >> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Hi Larry, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I tried maybe 3 times to get Livy back to active, without success. > > >>>>> I was a volunteer to contribute, but not alone, we need a community > > >>>> around > > >>>>> Livy. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I don't remember having seen new active contributions on the > mailing > > >>>>> list, and very limited on source code. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> If you really think we can have a team, that would be great, and I > > >>>>> still agree to support. But it has to be concrete. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Let's see what the other IPMC members are thinking, but IMHO, I > doubt > > >>>>> we will have Livy back to life in the short term. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Regards > > >>>>> JB > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 5:29 PM larry mccay <lmc...@apache.org> > > >> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Folks, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> As I mentioned in a previous thread [1], I would like to help > avoid > > >>>>> sending > > >>>>>> a well regarded, actively consumed and mature product to the > attic. > > >>>> There > > >>>>>> have been discussions internally at my employer and we have also > > >>>>> struggled > > >>>>>> getting our contributions committed. The original group of > > >> committers > > >>>>> seem > > >>>>>> to have all moved on, and this is the core challenge for those > > >> that are > > >>>>>> trying to contribute, but are not committers. This doesn’t > > >> represent a > > >>>>>> lack of interest in doing so and I think there are others in this > > >>>>> position. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> We are interested in trying to reboot with additional PPMC > > >> leadership > > >>>> and > > >>>>>> investing in contributors that we would like to install as new > > >>>>> committers. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I’d like to hear what the incubator would think about a Reproposal > > >> for > > >>>>> the > > >>>>>> Livy project that would be open to existing PMC members and > > >> committers > > >>>> as > > >>>>>> well as new contributors with a vested interest in this project > > >> and the > > >>>>>> health of its community. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> How would we best propose such a thing here? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> –larry > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 1. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/list?general@incubator.apache.org:2022-7 > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 5:21 AM Luciano Resende < > > >> luckbr1...@gmail.com> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Based on the failed attempts to resurrect a community, +1 for > > >>>>> retirement. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 07:26 Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > > >> j...@nanthrax.net> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Hi guys, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> After several attempts, we are struggling to execute Livy > > >> podling: > > >>>>> the > > >>>>>>>> activity is pretty low, and even after a couple of calls for > > >>>> action, > > >>>>>>>> we don't have a clear sign of community around Livy. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I would like to discuss/propose to retire the Livy podling. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Thoughts ? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Regards > > >>>>>>>> JB > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > >> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>> Sent from my Mobile device > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >> > > >> > > > > Craig L Russell > > c...@apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > >
