Hi, I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the project's README: "Apache FOO is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the Apache Incubator. Incubation is required of all newly accepted projects until a further review indicates that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making process have stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful ASF projects. While incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or stability of the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be fully endorsed by the ASF.”
Kind Regards, Justin > On 24 Apr 2024, at 9:48 pm, tison <wander4...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks for your participation! > > For people who support drop the incubator- prefix, please describe you > opinion on: > >> 3. It's still significant to make it clear that a podling is in the > incubating status and thus a DISCLAIMER to protect the ASF branding. >> I'd propose to add the "incubating" words to each repo's README. This can > be regarded as treating those READMEs a homepage for the repo and, >> >> 1. Name the project as "Apache Foo (Incubating)" in its first and most > prominent uses, hopefully and H1 heading. >> 2. Add a footer including the Incubator logo and DISCLAIMER, like the > current footer of Apache Answer (Incubating) [3] >> [3] https://answer.apache.org/ > > Be sure that you know we don't barely drop the prefix, but we need a formal > way to "make it clear that a podling's repo is in the incubating status", > which can be achieved currently by its prefix. > > Best, > tison. > > > Wilfred Spiegelenburg <wilfr...@apache.org> 于2024年4月23日周二 13:12写道： > >> For Go based projects dropping the incubator reference in the git repo >> makes things easier also when graduating. Packages and dependencies are >> referenced based on the repository name. Renaming the repository either >> requires changes throughout the code base to remove the incubator reference >> or the packages will always have the incubator reference in them. >> >> Wilfred >> >> On 2024/04/23 01:22:02 tison wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Recently, the new added podlings, namely Amoro and Hertzbeat, have their >>> GitHub repo in the names: >>> >>> * https://github.com/apache/amoro >>> * https://github.com/apache/hertzbeat >>> >>> ... which is different to the other 20+ podlings and 200+ repos [1] >>> existing (this number counts retired ones and those for the Incubator PMC >>> itself, but it's approximate). >>> >>> [1] >>> >> https://github.com/orgs/apache/repositories?language=&q=incubator-&sort=&type=all >>> >>> My opinion is to agree that generally: >>> >>> 1. The incubator prefix comes from the SVN days where all podlings were >> under >>> the incubator SVN tree. >>> 2. Dropping the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo can reduce >> some >>> graduation tasks (although it's somewhat a milestone and ceremony for the >>> podling, and INFRA does not find it a large job, as well as it won't >> break >>> downstream almost due to redirections). >>> 3. It's still significant to make it clear that a podling is in the >>> incubating status and thus a DISCLAIMER to protect the ASF branding. >>> >>> With these premises, I started this thread with the following proposals >> and >>> questions. >>> >>> 1. Establish a consensus to allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name >>> without incubator- prefix. >>> 2. Allow other podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their incubator- prefix >> by >>> now, not MUST during the graduation. >>> 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description >>> can conflict with this consensus. >>> 4. However, find a way to clarify that a repo belongs to a podling. >>> >>> For 4, I'd propose to add the "incubating" words to each repo's README. >>> This can be regarded as treating those READMEs a homepage for the repo >> and, >>> >>> 1. Name the project as "Apache Foo (Incubating)" in its first and most >>> prominent uses, hopefully and H1 heading. >>> 2. Add a footer including the Incubator logo and DISCLAIMER, like the >>> current footer of Apache Answer (Incubating) [3] >>> >>> [3] https://answer.apache.org/ >>> >>> This method, however, can be a new chore for podlings that have many >>> satellite repos that may previously claim their incubating status by >> naming >>> the repos incubator-foo-satellite. But it's just another template to >>> follow, so it won't be a big deal. >>> >>> Looking forward to your thoughts on this proposal and any suggestions to >>> improve the implementation part. >>> >>> Best, >>> tison. >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
