On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:18, Sam Ruby wrote: > Peter Donald wrote: > > Unless you plan on adding similar comments for a few other projects I > > would > > > suggest you remove the commons advertising > > Why? Should the reference to Turbine be removed from > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/source.html ? > > Do you have a proposed patch? Something you would like to add?
Ummmmm ... here is the section I am talking about "Jakarta can host a product within a top-level subproject, or as a component in the Jakarta Commons. This document covers what is expected of a proposal for a top-level Jakarta subproject. The Jakarta Commons has a similar but different procedure for accepting new products. See the Jakarta Commons site for details." Is this something you think is needed and should be in the jakarta guidelines? > Guys, I can understand why some of you may not want to participate in other > activities, but this is no excuse for attempting to block the progress of > others. hmm - exactly how am I blocking the progress of commons? I have wanted to do something very similar to commons for ages - hell way before JDD even proposed AUT which was way before commons was proposed. And if you recall I was somewhat active in early library-dev discussions, no? Do you disagree with anything here? Have I ever blocked anybody moving anything to commons? Yes I would love to particpate in commons but I probably wont because I consider the management process of it broken. Consider this - how many committers are there in commons atm - 10, 20, 30 ? Now to get a new project moved you need a 3/4 vote - lets be generous and say about 12 votes!!!!! That seems real likely. Then you have the joy that every commons committer has voting rights on everything - even code they have never contributed and never will - sounds like a great "meritocracy" - right? Mmmmm, just the sort of thing we are meant to be promoting. So yes theres buckets of stuff in ant, in excalibur and at home that I would love to move to commons but that aint going to happen till its fixed or if ever. Considering you seem to be accusing me of blocking progress in commons I want you to explain it in real simple terms how I am doing it? I seem to be a bit think and can't quite figure it out. -- Cheers, Pete "Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech." - Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
