I do not think so. Handling in a proper way situations that are
specific to a remote call does not mean that the architecture of
the app must be less scalable.


Have fun,
Paulo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 7:03 AM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful
> 
> 
> Albeit at the expense of scalability
> 
> On Thu, 2002-01-31 at 09:51, Paulo Gaspar wrote:
> > I think that the key bit is:
> >  > and it is a mistake to try to program 
> >  > as though a
> >  > remote call had the same characteristics as a local one.
> > 
> > Your app will always be more robust if you do NOT ignore the
> > specific issues of a remote call.
> > 
> > 
> > Have fun,
> > Paulo Gaspar
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:50 PM
> > > To: 'Jakarta General List'
> > > Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Tim.
> > > 
> > > I agree with your point of view, we've been trying to avoid EJBs 
> > > as much as
> > > possible. But there's one thing I don't understand.
> > > 
> > > > -----Mensaje original-----
> > > > De: Tim Hyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Yes, EJB is a complete bodge of a design, and RPC invocation 
> > > > techniques
> > > > would only be acceptable if they were completely transparent, 
> > > > instead of
> > > > requiring you to do so much plumbing yourself. But 
> > > > personally, I think RPC
> > > > is entirely overrated, and it is a mistake to try to program 
> > > > as though a
> > > > remote call had the same characteristics as a local one.
> > > 
> > > Why is it a mistake? I think a remote proxy is a great way to 
> make remote
> > > calls, shielding the developer from the complexity of it all. 
> The recent
> > > discussion about AltRMI has shown that there's a lot of 
> interest in using
> > > proxies, but it was Sun's implementation (the Remote* stuff) that was
> > > flawed.
> > > 
> > > Un saludo,
> > > 
> > > Alex.
> > > 
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