On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 10:46, Ted Husted wrote:
> yahoo.com goes way beyond a search engine:
> 
> Email, address books, auctions, classified ads, file storage, calendars
> and shared calendars, personalized portals for like 27 different sub
> applications, the list goes on.
> 
> Yahoo is delivering a vast number of dynamic applications to an
> incredible number of users, with excellent performance and reliabity. If
> there a success story in IT, this is it.
> 

True, but it isn't particularly transactional in nature as far as the
other features, more of a publishing type app.  Sure the email, but that
even has isolated data interaction..  Am I making sense?  

> I picked yahoo.com and google.com as two different examples of high
> traffic Web sites that are delivering scalability. 
> 
> I only mentioned google.com since it is ~blazingly fast~, and represents
> a very different best-of-breed right now. 
> 
> 
> "Andrew C. Oliver" wrote:
> > 
> > Those are both search engines with non-critical data update issues.  You
> > do need an example with more business-logic oriented type
> > functionality.  I could mock something like those up with Lucene just
> > with a few routers and pushing the indicies to the mirrored systems.
> > This doesn't answer the "enterprise system" question.  Secondly we need
> > examples on a more moderate basis.
> > 
> > (sorry, if that sounds critical, I don't mean to be, I think you're
> > heading the discussion the right direction, I just don't think those
> > examples do that)
> > 
> > On a more personal note.  Funny story: My wife went to high/grade school
> > with the Google guy.  Small world eh?
> > 
> > -Andy
> > 
> > On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 08:57, Ted Husted wrote:
> > > Perhaps the question to ask is how are real sites providing real
> > > scalabilty without resorting to Enterprise JavaBeans?
> > >
> > > Take google.com and yahoo.com for example,
> > >
> > > Yahoo offers a signficant number of remote, multi-user applications like
> > > the ones we would like to provide to our own clients. Are they using
> > > EJBs? If not, what do they use? How can we turn Yahoo's approach into a
> > > toolkit model that other developers can use?
> > >
> > > Google is offering a single, read-only servvice, but at mind-bending
> > > speed. How does it serve so many users so quickly? Again, how can we
> > > package that approach in a way that it accessible to other developers?
> > >
> > > Sorry to be providing more queries than code, but to paraphrase Linus,
> > > it often takes one person to articulate an issue, and another to resolve
> > > it =:o)
> > >
> > >
> > > -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
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