Paul, I still don't get it. What you've essentially proposed is SourceForge running on Apache hardware and named ApacheForge. The idea being, I think, that having 'Apache' in the name lends it some credibility. But you've also removed all the normal barriers to entry into the Apache community and that necessarily dilutes the value of the name Apache. You're trying to transfer the brand value of 'Apache' onto something new 'ApacheForge' without bringing along the stuff that allowed the brand to have value in the first place: our people and our processes.
Now, some days I'm pretty dense, but just don't see how this is a good value proposition for Apache. Feel free to try to convince me, but right now I just don't see it. What I think would be cool is if more projects outside apache.org started using the Apache license or something derived from it. That would show that developers really value the license itself and the principles it's based on, not just the cool software we provide. Marc Saegesser > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Hammant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:37 AM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: ApacheForge > > > Marc, > > It's a marketing thing. > This is more general than my AltRMI issue. > I think ApacheForge has merit irrespective of what happens to AltRMI. > > - Paul > > >-1 > > > >Since the proposed ApacheForge would have no real connection > with Apache > >other than running on Apache hardware I don't really see the > value. How is > >this different from starting a project on SourceForge and > building the > >community that way? There's nothing stopping anyone from > using the Apache > >license there. > > > >Now, don't read that as meaning that I think AltRMI should move to > >SourceForge, I don't. I also understand and sympathize with > the catch-22 > >adding a new jakarta-commons committer that started this > whole discussion. > >I think we should work out a solution to that problem, I > just don't think > >that ApacheForge is the right solution. > > > > > >Marc Saegesser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
