Paul Hammant wrote:

> Apache create ApacheForge. It has rules on IP and decision making, but
> is completely open to entrants.

-1

Apache is and has always been selective for a reason: we value
communities more than software and it takes a lot of energy to build a
community solid enough to build good enough software to pay back Apache
for the risk of diluting the brand each time a new effort is added.

*this* is the reason why lots of efforts are left out

*this* is the reason why not a single Apache member wants to see this
changing

Also, doing a parallel with the FSF doesn't help: they are focused on
code (the more code is covered by the GPL, the better), we are focused
on the people and on their collaboration (the more people follow the
Apache spirit, the better).

For anything else there is sourceforge.

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Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
                          able to give birth to a dancing star.
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