A thought struck me today which is probably totally obvious to folk but I thought I'd share it anyways. Sun gets pots of cash from companies who develop J2EE compliant software from the J2EE license fees. So its in Sun's interest to protect the BEA's, IBM's and their own J2EE products. The money they get is based on revenue of the company (so thats quite a lot of money from BEA & IBM).
The money-men at Sun probably see open source J2EE solutions as lost revenue to possible commercial J2EE solutions so when folks like JBoss come along they see it as in Sun's interest to not certify them to protect their J2EE licence revenue nest egg. Though with the .NET competition now I think its in their interest to protect their J2EE market place by allowing open source solutions; otherwise long term folks will just move away from J2EE. James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephane Bailliez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 4:52 PM Subject: "Jakarta is not an open source project in the pure community sense anymore" > > Apparentely I did not pay attention to those many gremlins working out for > Sun and IBM in Jakarta and that are so closed... doh ! > > See Marc Fleury's interview. > > --- > > http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2002/03/20/jboss_interview.html > > [...] > Anglin: There has been much speculation of late regarding JBoss and Apache > Jakarta. Could JBoss become a Jakarta project? > > Fleury and Mason: No, we don't see that happening. Jakarta is not an open > source project in the pure community sense anymore. It is dominated by > Sun/IBM employees. We are more focused on growing our own professional > services organization through JBoss Group. As such, we form a > hyper-efficient consultancy, where our open source product base enables us > to achieve an unparalleled degree of efficiency in sharing and communicating > knowledge. You may feel that our open source nature limits us here, but > never when it comes to high-level knowledge. The ability to see and > reproduce source code does not automatically give people the understanding > of how it's used or how it can be optimized. If they do achieve that on on > their own, that's great. For those who want more insight, we sell the > services to get them there. > > The second reason for our dissatisfaction with Apache has to do with > problems in the 3.2 version of Tomcat (the new one is better). When those > problems arose, we grew close to Jetty, a competing open source project > backed by MortBay Consulting in Australia. We met these guys, spent time > with them, and we found there were a lot of similarities -- they are a > husband-and-wife-led company dedicated to their product because it is their > business. It just happens that we relate better to people with goals and > expectations similar to ourselves --dedicated independent professionals. > JBoss Group is about supporting and promoting that way of life and work, > which, in our opinion, is conducive to the development of great software. > [...] > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>