There have been alot of talk back and forth about Maven, Krysalis Centipede, GUMP, ANT, etc., and we are all missing some basic points.
1) GUMP is a continuous integration tool. It is not meant to be more than that. I find it an invaluable tool, and the information it gives me is necessary. 2) ANT is a build tool. It does its job, but little more. It is like the "make" command on UNIX boxes. In the right hands, it is both powerful and dangerous at the same time. You can really do something right, or you can really screw something up. 3) Maven and Centipede are "competing" equivalents. Neither are to the point where ANT is yet. Both Jason Van Zyl and Nikola Ken Barozzi are great guys, and are very accommodating. Both projects have issues to work out. Jason and Nikola both recognize that. I have suggested improvements to Maven, and Jason has been open to them. I have not tried Centipede yet, but Nikola personally offered to help with integrating it on a project. 4) Bottom line is we need something at the Maven/Centipede level. We can really use an automated build that is plug and play for a new project. However, we need soemthing that can deal with subprojects and Commons-like arrangements. Last time I checked Maven/Centipede weren't there yet--but had it in their plans to support something like that. I appreciate the enthusiasm of the original post, but I think it is a little premature. Anything more than that is mudslinging, and FUD, and trying to correct misrepresentations. -- "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>