On 13/12/02 20:00 "Jeff Schnitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 06:42:36PM +0200, mohammad nabil wrote:
>> 
>> support Sun, Open Source, and all good manufacturar in our nice world :)
>> 
> 
> Do you just not grasp that Sun's rigid control of Java is the
> antithesis of Open Source, and _especially_ the Apache philosophy?
> 
> Try forking the Java codebase sometime.  See how fast it takes
> Sun's lawyers to find you.  Want to port Java to a new platform?
> Get special permission from Sun, and don't plan on having public
> CVS (see the FreeBSD experience).
> 
> There's nothing "open" about that.

That's why the Foundation is working to fix that...

    Pier


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