I'll be available in January to get started.  Let me know what is
involved in a release.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henning Schmiedehausen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 2:51 AM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS
> 
> I'd do it, but I'm not personally involved in JCS. IMHO Martin Poeschl
> (who is a Turbineer _and_ works with JCS) would be perfect but I know
> that he will be on holidays for a longer time (either already is or
will
> be soon. Martin?).
> 
> Martin did the Turbine 2.2 release and most of the Torque releases in
> the past and I did the 2.3 release of Turbine, so this might count as
> "release management experience". ;-)
> 
>       Regards
>               Henning
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 13:13, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> > in this case, i'd say we'll need sufficient volunteers from the
jakarta
> > pmc to ensure oversight during this period. it'd probably be good if
> > they were turbineers and if at least one had recent experience of
> > release management.
> >
> > anyone willing to step up?
> >
> > - robert
> >
> > On 8 Dec 2003, at 15:28, Aaron Smuts wrote:
> >
> > > Sounds good.  Less disruption on the way to a release would be
best.
> > >
> > > Aaron
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Henning Schmiedehausen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:22 AM
> > >> To: Jakarta General List
> > >> Subject: Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS
> > >>
> > >> IMHO too complex. If there is already a JCS list (is there? As
you
> can
> > >> see, I'm a Turbine committer but I have zero overlap with JCS. In
> fact
> > > I
> > >> didn't even know that this is a "turbine sub-sub project" for
quite
> > > some
> > >> time ;-) ), let's keep it. We want to build community? Let's
_not_
> > > fold
> > >> it into the commons list where a completely different culture
exists
> > >> compared to a "normal" project list. I'm pretty sure that this
will
> > >> scare JCS users away.
> > >>
> > >> I'm thinking that "making it a direct Jakarta sub project" starts
to
> > >> make more and more sense. I'd propose that we move JCS in this
> > >> direction, if the JCS developers push for a 1.0 release inside
> > >> turbine-jcs and we make the transition into a Jakarta project
with
> > > this
> > >> 1.0 release (which would IMHO a fine reason to do so).
> > >>
> > >>  Regards
> > >>          Henning
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 17:16, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> > >>> On 5 Dec 2003, at 09:10, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 20:43, Daniel Rall wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Given Robert's description of his experience with the
Incubator,
> > > I'm
> > >>>>> for the
> > >>>>> Jakarta Commons to gather some community (direct drop rather
than
> > >>>>> sandbox
> > >>>>> route), with the goal of an eventual promotion to a full
> > > sub-project.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> +1 but direct drop only if the move to the commons is
accompanied
> > > by a
> > >>>> release (1.0 or 0.something, I don't care).
> > >>>
> > >>> the way that i'd like to see a potential drop working is by
folding
> > > the
> > >>> jcs user and development lists into the commons lists first.
this
> > > would
> > >>> allow the rest of the commons to provide oversight.
> > >>>
> > >>> next, the JCS team should push towards some kind of release for
the
> > >>> core engine (even if it's a 0.1 version). once this is ready,
we'd
> > >>> update the commons website and officially add JCS to the
commons.
> > >>> hopefully this would provide enough momentum to bootstrap a
> > > community
> > >>> and to create releases for all the various JCS bits and pieces.
once
> > >>> the community exists, then JCS could apply for promotion out of
the
> > >>> commons.
> > >>>
> > >>>> Else it would not be fair to
> > >>>> many other sub-projects currently in the sandbox which have
been
> > > kept
> > >>>> there because there is no release (commons-configuration e.g.).
> > >>>
> > >>> (just to set the record straight on commons-configuration)
sandbox
> > >>> components are not allowed to have releases. one major factor
when
> > >>> promotion (to the commons proper) is being consider is that a
> > > component
> > >>> is ready for a release (even if it's a 0.1 one). i now think
that
> > > every
> > >>> component in commons proper needs a proper release of some kind
so
> > > that
> > >>> other projects have the chance to depend on a released version.
> > >>>
> > >>> i'm not sure why eric hasn't started to push towards promotion
for
> > >>> commons-configuration but it's possible that there's addition
work
> > > that
> > >>> needs doing before commons-configuration is ready.
> > >>>
> > >>> - robert
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
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