On Dec 28, 2003, at 10:25 AM, Ted Husted wrote: > +1 > > I agree that interested volunteers should: > > * setup a Wiki area describing the TLP process and rationales , AND
Do you think we all should setup our own individual Wiki page, or work together? I'm getting the feeling you don't want to work together on this. > > * give notice to each and every Jakarta DEV list that the area exists. > > My main beef is that we have not done due diligence in alerting ALL of > the subprojects of the latest developments. What 'developments'? We are discussing things here on general@, and as far as I can see, we have no developments yet. Ted, you seem to be in a terrible hurry to push this through. Can you wait until people come back from the holiday break and read and catch up? the point of doing things here is to *increase* participation, not reduce it by rushing something through during a generally world-wide western holiday. > > I've outlined a wiki page as described by this proposal > <http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi? > JakartaPMCTopLevelProjectApplication>, and setup a draft TLP > resolution. > > I would also volunteer to subscribe to each of the DEV lists and post > a message pointing them to the archive of this thread. (Unless another > volunteer already has an account setup to do such things. ) Instead of doing it yourself, why not try to work w/in the PMC structure and get a message that we all agree on, and have one person from each project on the PMC send to their community. It would be a good step in the direction you just were espousing in a different thread, namely increased participation. > > Whether a subproject follows through or not can be totally up to each > subproject. The important thing is that we do the due diligence in > making sure *everyone* concerned has been apprised. LOL. There is no legal requirement that any arbitrary idea that a person has *must* be propagated directly to the dev list of each sub-project. Let others join in this... > > -Ted. > > > ----- Original message ----------------------------------------> > From: Stephen Colebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Received: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:39:30 +0000 > Subject: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status > >> There has been considerable emphasis on this list over recent weeks >> for the >> sticking plaster approach. That is to make small minor changes to >> Jakarta in >> the hope the board will stop hassling us. This could be because this >> is the >> consensus view and I'm an odd one out. Or it could be that those in >> favour >> of multiple TLPs just can't be bothered with the arguing. So I >> thought I'd >> place the alternative proposal on the table. If you like it, +1 it. > > <SNIP/> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]