+1

On 7/5/05, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> there doesn't see any enthusiasm for those new ideas and no objections
> to phil's draft. i think we should go ahead and make the changes
> suggested by phil.
> 
> - robert
> 
> On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 22:39 +0100, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> > On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 13:13 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
> > > Here is a stab at replacement text for 15, 17 and 18.
> >
> > great :)
> >
> > looks good but threw up some ideas...
> >
> > > 15-1 Any member of the community may propose a new package. To be
> > > accepted, a package proposal must receive majority approval of the
> > > subproject committers and at least one committer must volunteer to serve
> > > as an initial package team member. Proposals should identify the
> > > rationale for the package, its scope, its interaction with other
> > > packages and products, the <insert-subproject-name> resources, if any,
> > > to be created, the initial source from which the package is to be
> > > created, and the sponsoring committers.
> > >
> > > 15-2 The subproject will maintain an svn repository, referred to as the
> > > <i>sandbox</i>, as a workplace for new packages.  Once approved, new
> > > packages must all begin in the sandbox. Any apache committer may
> > > contribute code directly to the sandbox and this code may form the
> > > initial source for new packages.  Code from existing apache projects
> > > can, with the support of the contributing projects, also be imported
> > > directly into the sandbox.  Finally, patches contributed incrementally
> > > by community members may be committed to the sandox by a subproject
> > > committer. If the initial source for a new package is from outside of
> > > apache, the new package must be brought into apache via the apache
> > > incubator.
> >
> > not sure but wonder whether we might need to tightening this last
> > sentence so that it can't be read as implying that having only a portion
> > of the initial source from external sources is ok. opinions?
> >
> > > 15-3 A majority vote among subproject commiters is required to
> > > "graduate" a package from the "sandbox" to become a proper package. Only
> > > proper packages may make releases. If a package remains in the sandbox
> > > for more than six months, a majority vote will be required to prevent
> > > its being archived from svn and removed from the subproject web site and
> > > any other public locations (e.g. nightly or continuous integration
> > > builds). Proper packages may not release code with dependencies on
> > > sandbox packages.
> >
> > 1. i wonder whether it'd be better to have bi-annual reviews to simplify
> > administration. in january, review all sandbox components which were
> > created before the previous july. could run them as a single vote.
> >
> > 2. i wonder whether we actually need to remove them from svn: just could
> > copy them into an archive directory.
> >
> > - robert
> >
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