On 4 Feb 2011, at 14:35 , Toni Menzel wrote:

> Speaking of legal entity: its stucks me a bit that ASF plus Eclipse 
> Foundation can do it. 
> Sure, more big companies behind it but i wonder if it makes sense to do that 
> so we comply to the "Open Source TCK License" - which is - if i read that 
> correctly, free of charge.

Only individuals can become a committer or member of the ASF, so that's not it. 
But it's probably the fact that the ASF itself is a foundation and as such a 
legal entity.

> In germany we have this Eingetragener Verein" thing in order to become a 
> legal entity for all kinds of non commercial activities. Probably too much 
> effort just to get the TCK but maybe there is more behind this (being able to 
> receive tax deductable donations etc.)

It would probably also mean that there would be more required than just 
"creating a new Jira account" to sign up for OPS4J, if you want access to the 
TCK.

> Another thing is what it takes for an individual to have a look at the TCK 
> (not actually using it) in order to see if it makes sense to improve it ? 
> Just thinking because it has something to do with test/verification of OSGi 
> components ..

Why not build an open source TCK instead? If you start with collecting all the 
"integration tests" for existing open source implementation, you might actually 
have a reasonable starting point. At Luminis we did some work on a testing 
framework [1] (as you know, based on Pax Exam) that contains several tests for 
open source framework implementations and displays the results in a nice matrix 
[2]. Why not join forces and extend that together?

Greetings, Marcel

[1] http://opensource.luminis.net/wiki/display/OSGITEST/OSGi+testing+framework
[2] http://opensource.luminis.net/svn/OSGITESTRESULTS/trunk/index.html

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