On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 14:35, Toni Menzel <[email protected]> wrote: > Speaking of legal entity: its stucks me a bit that ASF plus Eclipse > Foundation can do it. > Sure, more big companies behind it but i wonder if it makes sense to do that > so we comply to the "Open Source TCK License" - which is - if i read that > correctly, free of charge. > In germany we have this Eingetragener Verein" thing in order to become a > legal entity for all kinds of non commercial activities. Probably too much > effort just to get the TCK but maybe there is more behind this (being able > to receive tax deductable donations etc.) > Just thinking along the lines. > Another thing is what it takes for an individual to have a look at the TCK > (not actually using it) in order to see if it makes sense to improve it ? > Just thinking because it has something to do with test/verification of OSGi > components .. >
The reasons behing that is that the TCK is not public. And the OSGi Alliance does not give it to individuals, so in order to have access to it, you need to part of an organization which has an agreement with the OSGi Alliance (being a member of having some special treatment such as ASF and Eclipse). > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Niclas Hedhman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> What we (then OSGi Member Jayway) did initially was to verify Pax Web >> in "secret" and then simply file bug reports against the gaps... ;-) Yeah, I've done that too. It gives you some confidence, but doesn't really allow to claim anything. Per my discussion, I can say I've tested it (because as a Progress employee, i have access to the TCK) and pax-web is mostly compliant with the Web Application Container specification (there are a few really minor failing test cases here and there). >> I.e. not bothering with the "certified" part, but ensuring it >> complies. OTOH, the test kit for Http Service was not particularly >> extensive, so it was by no means true validation that it followed the >> spec. >> >> Cheers >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> wrote: >> > So i've asked some OSGi board members about that. >> > Ops4j has no legal existence, so it's not possible that the OSGi >> > alliance gives the TCK. >> > I, as a Progress employee, can however test ops4j with the TCK and >> > verify the compliance and publicly announce if it's compliant or not >> > (being certified costs some money, so I don't think we want to do >> > that). The project itself would not be able to do that, as only OSGi >> > members have access to the TCK (with some exceptions for the ASF, but >> > the ASF has is a legal entity). >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:05, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Being employed by an OSGi Alliance Member, I have access to those, but >> >> not sure how I can use those from on OPS4j point of view. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:39, Toni Menzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Now lets try getting the OSGi TCK for Pax Projects .. >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Congrats for all the hard work Achim ! >> >>>> >> >>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:30, Toni Menzel <[email protected]> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> > Awesome! Thanks, to all participating in this release train ! >> >>>> > >> >>>> > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Achim Nierbeck >> >>>> > <[email protected]> >> >>>> > wrote: >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> Hi All, >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> finally Pax-Web is 1.0.0 and out! >> >>>> >> We do have a lot of Bugfixes and Improvments with this version and >> >>>> >> from >> >>>> >> my >> >>>> >> point of view it's a worthy 1.0.0. >> >>>> >> Besides Pax-Web 1.0.0 there where some Bugfixes for Pax-Swissbox >> >>>> >> regarding >> >>>> >> the bnd part. >> >>>> >> Some other Improvements were made concerning Pax-URL-War to get >> >>>> >> closer >> >>>> >> to >> >>>> >> the OSGi spec. >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> Bugfixes/Improvements can be seen in detail in the corresponding >> >>>> >> release >> >>>> >> notes: >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/ops4j/2011/02/04/Pax+Swissbox,+Pax+URL+and+Pax+Web+released >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> Best regards, Achim >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> >> general mailing list >> >>>> >> [email protected] >> >>>> >> http://lists.ops4j.org/mailman/listinfo/general >> >>>> >> >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > -- >> >>>> > Toni Menzel - http://www.okidokiteam.com >> >>>> > >> >>>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>>> > general mailing list >> >>>> > [email protected] >> >>>> > http://lists.ops4j.org/mailman/listinfo/general >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Cheers, >> >>>> Guillaume Nodet >> >>>> ------------------------ >> >>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >>>> ------------------------ >> >>>> Open Source SOA >> >>>> http://fusesource.com >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> general mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> http://lists.ops4j.org/mailman/listinfo/general >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Toni Menzel - http://www.okidokiteam.com >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> general mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> http://lists.ops4j.org/mailman/listinfo/general >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Cheers, >> >> Guillaume Nodet >> >> ------------------------ >> >> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------ >> >> Open Source SOA >> >> http://fusesource.com >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Cheers, >> > Guillaume Nodet >> > ------------------------ >> > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> > ------------------------ >> > Open Source SOA >> > http://fusesource.com >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > general mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.ops4j.org/mailman/listinfo/general >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer >> http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java >> >> I live here; http://tinyurl.com/3xugrbk >> I work here; http://tinyurl.com/24svnvk >> I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> general mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.ops4j.org/mailman/listinfo/general > > > > -- > Toni Menzel - http://www.okidokiteam.com > > _______________________________________________ > general mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ops4j.org/mailman/listinfo/general > > -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet ------------------------ Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ ------------------------ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com _______________________________________________ general mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ops4j.org/mailman/listinfo/general
