Just because Memtest86 went 30% without failure does not mean your RAM is 30% 
OK. It should run for at least a full loop, and I typically run it for at least 
2 loops (though only once have I seen a system suddenly start spewing errors it 
didn't have during the first loop, and I've run it on a lot of systems). It 
does take a while, so you probably don't want to sit around watching it. I 
usually let it run overnight while I sleep.


----- Original Message ----
From: Peter Davoust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:08:42 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Gentoo crashing?

Ok, so I compiled a new kernel, and it seemed to work. I booted the new kernel, 
I was able to unzip and install dhcpcd, ndiswrapper, wireless-tools, and cab 
extract. Then, once the wireless was working, I tried emerge --search dhcpcd, 
because gentoo apparently doesn't like my manually configured dhcpcd.... CRASH! 
I ran memtest86+, as suggested, and it got to at least 30% without a failure. 
I'll try it again, but at least 30% of my memory is in tact. I'll try to emerge 
some other things, and see how it goes. 


-Peter

On 5/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 02:04:30AM -0400, Peter Davoust wrote:
>    Ok, first, while I appreciate your advice, this is a brand new laptop

>    and there's no way I'm running bonnie++ (that's prime95, right?), or
>    anything with the words "cpu" and "burn" in the same sentence on this
>    thing. Memtest86 might be an option as long as it has no potential to

>    kill anything. I agree, it could be the heat, and that was the first
>    thing that came to my mind, but Vista boots and runs for long periods
>    of time with no issues. I'll check it out with the new kernel in the

>    morning and see what it does.

Any new laptop should have the hardware smarts not to smoke itself, or
something really is broken.  It may shut down "unexpectedly" (which I
also consider a design bug), but actually causing damage is unlikely.


That said, this really sounds like a RAM problem, so I would run
memtest86 first.  Memtest86 has zero chance of smoking any system that
has passed a factory QA check.

I had a Gentoo system (a server) that pretty much ran (to be honest, it

was a heavily used database server that stayed up for a good 3 months in
this state).  However, its clock was skewed something like 10m/hour (I
now think this was due to lost ticks during processing of memory

faults).

I tried all the various kernel flags, largemem, etc., only to find out
that the problem was (as others on this thread have posted) incompatible
RAM.  I point this out only to say that bad RAM can cause *very* unusual

problems (not just the segfaults you'd expect), and to say that lots of
complex operations (like Vista, for example) can continue to run just
fine in such a broken environment.

Dustin
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