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From: Peter Davoust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Gentoo crashing?

I know it doesn't actually burn the cpu, but I'd rather not cook any components 
if I don't have to. From what I know of torture tests, they run the cpu so hot 
it starts making computational errors, am I right? It still makes me nervous. I 
was hoping to be able to fix the issue just by recompiling my kernel, but no 
such luck. I'll mess with it some more and see what I can do. Can you give me 
any advice as to what I should to to a) not violate my warrantee and b) avoid 
killing my computer as much as possible? Could it just be something with my 
Gentoo install? I guess that's a stupid question; I've had this problem on an 
older computer, but it was a Desktop and it was much easier to swap components 
without messing up my warrantee. So if it were a hardware problem, wouldn't you 
think that suse 
10.2 would have run into it as well? I used to run 10.2 (used to as in 3 days 
ago) for hours on end without any problems at all. I agree that Gentoo can run 
the computer harder, but that doesn't quite click. 

-Peter




You're being silly. Software torture tests are not going to kill your hardware. 
Just run them and see what you get. Memtest will give you the address where the 
error occured, and I've always been able to determine which stick was bad from 
that, using a little deductive reasoning (I usually verify by testing the 
sticks alone, but so far I've not been wrong).

As for voiding your warranty, memory and the hard drive are typically 
considered user-servicable parts. In fact, most of the time if either of those 
are the problem they'll just send you the parts and you'll have to replace them 
yourself anyway.

More on torturing hardware: really, the only component that's at all vulnerable 
to this is the hard drive, simply because it's a mechanical device, but it will 
take an absurdly long time to do any actual damage. I used to test hard drives 
for video servers (think Tivo, but starting at $100k). We tried a wide variety 
of drive testing suites, but it turned out none of them ran the drives harder 
than our normal application. A surprising number of the oldest version of our 
product are still running, on the original drives, after over 10 years, in 
situations that are very demanding (like serving multiple channels for 
DirecTV). So, really, stop being so paranoid about software torture tests. It 
is a complete myth that you can ruin your hardware by running them.






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