[replying here as it already cleared out a couple of things i wanted to ask]
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 05:19:03PM +0000, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: > 3. The proctors would be given the access required to execute any > suspensions or similar actions. Please define access. Does that mean they get to ban people from the forums and all #gentoo-* channels? Do they get mod/op powers or just request it from the respective forum moderators / channel operators (who _have_ to follow their orders)? This is also very unclear in the doc: > Things that could get you banned/suspended from Gentoo's official > communication infrastructure: What exactly is Gentoo's official communication infrastructure? The mailinglists? _All_ IRC channels? So far #gentoo and #gentoo-dev are the only channels following some official policy, all others are ruled by whatever project/owner they have (afaik, correct me if wrong). Would a ban also affect all #gentoo-* channels and the forums? Posting on planet? What about gentoo developers calling people names in non-gentoo channels while wearing a gentoo cloak on irc or being otherwise easily identified as such (e.g. posting flames to debian mailing lists using @gentoo.org email)? > 4. By Gentoo fora/Official Communication Channels we refer to all > official channels of communication; MLs, IRC, Forums, IM, Bugzilla etc. Kind of answers my question, but i'm still asking for confirmation because i have a hard time believing it. Do the proctors get to overrule every team that moderates some communication channel already? > (This does NOT mean we are replacing guidelines for sub-fora -- the CoC > would be in addition to IRC and Forum guidelines). This should be added to the doc - as far i understand it defines minimum standards, and there are additional rules for certain irc channels and the forums (probably best to link them in the guide). Furthermore this raises an important question for me: So far, the forums moderators (as well as the ops in #gentoo) have enforced their policies. As long proctors and mods/ops are of the same opinion about a person, fine - but what about the following situations: - A developer misbehaves on the forums according to the forums staff and gets banned by them. So far, it has been our policy (not written, and hardly used every 2 years) to let devrel know about it in case they wanted to do something else about it. I guess it would make sense to continue that. What if the proctors disagree with the ban? - The proctors think someone is misbehaving on the forums and want him banned, while the forums staff think it is not ban worthy. What now? > I also understand that the timeframe for > peer-review is shorter than what you have all expected (and wished for), > and I fully understand the annoyance in regards to this. It's shorter > than what we had originally aimed for. I seriously hope the council doesn't do a final vote on something where a lot of details are yet unclear and undefined, otherwise i'll vote the bums out. [1] Don't get me wrong, it's about time to do something, but rushing through something completely new probably will only make things worse. cheers, Wernfried [1] before anyone goes proctor on me, read http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0039.html :-P -- Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne at gentoo dot org Gentoo Forums: http://forums.gentoo.org IRC: #gentoo-forums on freenode - email: forum-mods at gentoo dot org
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