On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:05:51 +0200 Pacho Ramos <pa...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_86b67d8ab51a24922a3d3be75d10f42b.xml > > That shows how things can be done and how shouldn't be done, it's not > casual that you are always involved in this kind of discussions,
Yes, because I'm prepared to put in the work to make sure these things get done properly, whereas others will just comment once and then ignore the rest of the thread. > instead of thinking all people is trying to "shoot the messenger", > maybe you should think about you acts here (I know it's difficult, > specially when discussions are done virtually and not in real world > where you, probably, would understand better that your way of > demanding things and putting conditions is not the way to go). Making > constructive suggestions instead of others that can be easily > interpreted as whims is the way to go. Uh huh, and that's what I've been doing the whole time when I've been asking for a patch for PMS, a GLEP etc. > > I'll remind you that for "big" features, the GLEP process is already > > documented. > > You know what I exactly mean, don't try to change the topic to "GLEP > process is already documented" to hide you don't want to put anything > of your time to help others to get proper documentation prepared to > show to pms team. Of course, you have the right to do so as this is > all contribution work that we do it if we want and have time, but > don't try to hide it in this way. That's nonsense. I've put in a lot of work on the PMS side for features that I understand. If multilib gets beyond what Brian called "a fairly opaque list of things", *then* I'm quite happy to help if I'm able. Right now, though, there's nowhere near enough that I (or as far as I can see, anyone else) can even start to go anywhere with it. This isn't going nowhere because no-one wants to help. It's going nowhere because what's been presented so far is nowhere near enough that anyone *can* help, and requests for a better description of what we're supposed to be looking at are being met with complaints that we haven't magically done all of the remaining work (which on this one I suspect is far more effort than what's been done so far). -- Ciaran McCreesh
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