On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:45:28 -0400 Michael Mol <mike...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Michał Górny <mgo...@gentoo.org> > wrote: > > On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 22:27:37 +0200 > > Peter Stuge <pe...@stuge.se> wrote: > > > >> Rich Freeman wrote: > > [snip] > > >> > Systemd isn't a like-for-like replacement for traditional inits. > >> > It aims to be much more, so this is a bit of an apples-to-oranges > >> > comparison. > >> > >> Yes, it is much more, which is a very nice thing on the systems > >> it supports. I believe systemd is not usuable at all outside Linux > >> and will not likely ever be, so for prefix there will anyway always > >> be systemd alternatives in Gentoo! And on those systems the service > >> files should never be installed. > > > > Considering that systemd unit files are sometimes shipped with > > upstream packages, and often they are practically equivalent to > > openrc init scripts, I'd rather see openrc supporting that file > > format as an extension and using it instead of duplicating the same > > thing in init.d scripts. > > > > And yes, that means that people masking service files shoot > > themselves in the foot. > > > > Also, if I had more time (or support), I'd probably start working > > on a systemd-compatible init system with a more portable design. > > I would find this very interesting. I doubt I could find time for much > active contribution, unfortunately, but I'd help where I could. Well, the sad thing is that I don't really have much expertise in this area. I like the philosophy of designing many smalls things which just work well together, so I would probably start that by reinventing some helper tools. It would be most helpful to get some aid from OpenRC team. I believe that some common-use tools written for the project could be used and tested in OpenRC first. And that way, slowly a new init system could enter the world. Sadly, it would be strictly bound to file formats and names set by systemd team. -- Best regards, Michał Górny
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