08.05.2015 23:05, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov пишет:
I had been trying to push the idea of creating an united FOSS community
to solve problems of the higher school of the Russian Federation. But
such initiatives faded due to absence of support of top executives… And
now (according to e.g. [1]) it won't be a problem, IMHO.

It would. Just because of the fact, that "top executives" (in Education Dept,
in regional ministerys and so on) is that kind of clerks, that WOULDN'T accept
anything if it is impossible to get (read as "steal") some money in personal.

The link [1] shows that the _can_ get money in personal.

And I'd prefer
make a distribution for the higher shool based on Gentoo Linux.

I'd also prefer, but it is not that possible as you imagine. There is such
thing as certification in Federal Security Service (FSB) and so on.

1. It's not a big problem. We can certify a release of our Gentoo based
   distribution. It's just need a money to pay to laboratories. Plus
   big universities (like my) have enough social ties to fast push
   such things through Russian bureaucracy machines, IMO. And we
   can return the spent money the same way as ALT Linux (by selling
   tech support coupons).

2. The Federal Service for Technical and Export Control (ФСТЭК) and
   Federal Security Service (ФСБ) certificates required only to process
   big systems with personal data (ФЗ-152). For the rest systems (like
   ordinal desktop) it's not required at all.

So
here's the Question:

Does anybody interested in creating a consortium to send an application
to the Ministry of Communications?

I'm partially interested to mentally maintain that, but I have to free time to
activelly do anything in personal (but, probably, will be fine in a group).

I just offer to unite efforts. You don't need to free an additional time. We just need to find common problems and solve it together as a project for Ministry of Communications. Other good people will connect to us and meanwhile the support of the ministry will stimulate the top executives.

Specifically, I'm interested in making a distribution for the higher school of Russian Federation.

But, as I said, I doubt in success of that operation. But... Let the Force be
with us...

There was a lot of doubtable (but good) projects in my life. However few of them successfully started and completed. I think we _must_ try if we believe in FOSS. Sorry for this pathos :)

P.S. I'd not use politic-related phrases (like "import software substitution")
in international communities at all and here in particular.

Sorry for that. I was thinking that it's better to make subject more concrete.


Best regards, Dmitry.

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