How can I unsucribe from this mailing list On May 9, 2015 1:25 AM, "Dmitry Yu Okunev" <dyoku...@ut.mephi.ru> wrote:
> 08.05.2015 23:05, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov пишет: > >> I had been trying to push the idea of creating an united FOSS community >>> to solve problems of the higher school of the Russian Federation. But >>> such initiatives faded due to absence of support of top executives… And >>> now (according to e.g. [1]) it won't be a problem, IMHO. >>> >> >> It would. Just because of the fact, that "top executives" (in Education >> Dept, >> in regional ministerys and so on) is that kind of clerks, that WOULDN'T >> accept >> anything if it is impossible to get (read as "steal") some money in >> personal. >> > > The link [1] shows that the _can_ get money in personal. > > And I'd prefer >>> make a distribution for the higher shool based on Gentoo Linux. >>> >> >> I'd also prefer, but it is not that possible as you imagine. There is such >> thing as certification in Federal Security Service (FSB) and so on. >> > > 1. It's not a big problem. We can certify a release of our Gentoo based > distribution. It's just need a money to pay to laboratories. Plus > big universities (like my) have enough social ties to fast push > such things through Russian bureaucracy machines, IMO. And we > can return the spent money the same way as ALT Linux (by selling > tech support coupons). > > 2. The Federal Service for Technical and Export Control (ФСТЭК) and > Federal Security Service (ФСБ) certificates required only to process > big systems with personal data (ФЗ-152). For the rest systems (like > ordinal desktop) it's not required at all. > > So >>> here's the Question: >>> >>> Does anybody interested in creating a consortium to send an application >>> to the Ministry of Communications? >>> >> >> I'm partially interested to mentally maintain that, but I have to free >> time to >> activelly do anything in personal (but, probably, will be fine in a >> group). >> > > I just offer to unite efforts. You don't need to free an additional time. > We just need to find common problems and solve it together as a project for > Ministry of Communications. Other good people will connect to us and > meanwhile the support of the ministry will stimulate the top executives. > > Specifically, I'm interested in making a distribution for the higher > school of Russian Federation. > > But, as I said, I doubt in success of that operation. But... Let the >> Force be >> with us... >> > > There was a lot of doubtable (but good) projects in my life. However few > of them successfully started and completed. I think we _must_ try if we > believe in FOSS. Sorry for this pathos :) > > P.S. I'd not use politic-related phrases (like "import software >> substitution") >> in international communities at all and here in particular. >> > > Sorry for that. I was thinking that it's better to make subject more > concrete. > > > Best regards, Dmitry. > >
