On Sat, Apr 02, 2016 at 12:35:58PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 09:36:56PM +0200, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > On Friday, April 1, 2016 8:33:02 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On 01 Apr 2016 20:00, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > >> On Friday, April 1, 2016 3:58:18 AM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > >>>> ... > > >>> "being supported" != "enabled by default". so no, i still don't see any > > >>> requirement in anything you've cited that this be turned on > > >>> by default. ... > > >> > > >> you're right, but you know, before you claimed the contrary of what was > > >> voted and then decided to argue whether a 4 years old council decision > > >> applies or not here, my point was, and still is, that such council > > >> decisions make me think you're confusing what *you* want and > > >> what *we* (as > > >> a project) want for this case > > > > > > i see no significant number of people clamoring for this as the default. > > > the bug that started this has everyone on board for changing the default. > > > > yes; I also tend to think fedora's usr move is what makes most sense > > nowadays, but that'd go against council > > No, it wouldn't. We made a decision in 2013 (I'll have to find it) that > separate /usr should only be supported via initramfs; there is also a > news item warning that if you are not using initramfs and you have > separate /usr your system will be unbootable in the future.
Here are the latest council decision on the matter [1] and news item [2]. At this point, if anyone who has split /usr isn't using initramfs, they are operating on borrowed time. I would agree, since it has been so long, that we should do another news item, but once the news item is done and we give a firm date, I think we should just kill off gen_usr_ldscript. The /usr merge is a separate issue, which I agree with as well, but that was never brought to council, and it is controversial in the Gentoo camp because some folks claim fhs doesn't allow it. William [1] https://projects.gentoo.org/council/meeting-logs/20130924-summary.txt [2] https://gitweb.gentoo.org/data/gentoo-news.git/plain/2013-09-27-initramfs-required/2013-09-27-initramfs-required.en.txt
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