target.
I have a feedback experience from 2 months, trying to look at possible evolutions of catalyst .
In 2 months, I managed only twice to generate the same live cd :
- after updating my system, catalyst do not work ...
- updating snapshot : my livecd spec files do not work any more.
- Switching from 2004.2 to 2004.3 :
I was looking for the problem long time before seeing that files architecture in portage changed, profile file was not existing and looked like catalyst did not tell me anything ...
- Today :
For unknown reason my stage 2 does not compile kernel : unable to make mrproper ...Again I will spend time to look at the problem...
Furthermore, regarding projects supported , only targets stages are provided ,
I think we all are awaiting for catalyst + spec file support and not support of predefined LiveCD stages that suits only one person.
Looks like development of embedded in gentoo is restricted to a few people ....It is a shame since I am sure lot of experimented embedded guys with different experiences (networking/automation/...) should be there.
Best Regards Steph
Ned Ludd wrote:
On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 03:29, stephane ancelot wrote:
I would like to notice people that an embedded project does NOT mean always uClibc based!!!!
My project need not uclibc. (In my mind I think almost of catalyst)
We are somewhat biased towards uClibc for a few reasons. uClibc just makes sense. glibc does not (in many/most cases)
Less memory consumption/smaller space/faster compile times.
Developed with embedded in mind.
SpanKY, Peter and myself dev for uClibc outside of just Gentoo.
But your right glibc based systems are 100% doable. cross-* and native-* already working. However there are no profiles in portage for glibc+ embedded style things. But as long as you know what your doing and we hope most of you do (and are self starters) then it should not be a problem.
Almost any targets should work.
yes.
However embedded project should enclose things as :
- intel/powerpc targets
And we do. http://gentoo.osuosl.org/experimental/ppc/embedded/stages
- Realtime kernel facilities (rtai or other kernel oses in portage)
http://www.gentoo-portage.com/sys-kernel/uclinux-sources And 33 other kernels in the tree for everybodies obscure desires.
- Easy deployment issues (specifictaions for compact flash / usb ...)
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-embedded&m=110491868714076&w=2 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-embedded&m=110502470107482&w=2
These guys really need feedback. The success and failure of the projcet somewhat depends upon it's users. The end user really needs to give feedback and ideas of how to make things better to the devs or they may stop or deving on a sub project.
Ned Ludd wrote:
On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 18:52, Daniel Armyr wrote:
Is that all that the embedded project is?
eh?
The embedded project is a meta project. ie it houses many different sub projects but at the heart of things most of us tend to agree that you start from the same uClibc bases.
I have been lead to believe that the embedded project offers more than that, in for example building minimalistic images to be uploaded in binary form for example.You can do that.. You still sound a little confused here.
See yesterdays post from Koon GNAP-1.1 for example. Or mutex's post on Wensday about catalyst.
In due time both of these may come together, but that all depends on the feedback we see from the users. (Which so far seems to be near to none)
--DA
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 15:22:59 -0500 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thursday 06 January 2005 01:02 pm, Daniel Armyr wrote:
I would love to give gentoo a run on my firewall, but since there doesn'tconsidering your application here (native install of Gentoo), it doesnt sound like you need anything special
even seem to be a place to start, I don't really know well, where to start.
just grab a stage and use it like you would any other stage of Gentoo; the install process is pretty much the same
-mike
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