Hi Toby,

Nachricht vom Donnerstag, 3. April 2003, 00:59:13:

> On Wednesday 02 April 2003 10:00 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> I do not do nightly upgrades into 2003-spring, I keep that frozen (and
>> merge in security fixes by adding those ebuilds, digest files, and
>> meta-data caches by hand). 

That sounds a bit like that "gentoo-stable"-project... testing things,
the choosing by hand what to do. Isn't it possible to do that in
larger scale? I read more than once in this threat that people are
building their own production-sets of ebuilds. Isn't that a bit
against the philosophy of gentoo? I don't want to start a (flame-)war
over this, but you should get where I am going...
Just a starting point for discussion....

> I am doing the same thing for our gentoo servers, with one variation. I try to
> keep the stapshot completely clean, and add updates using PORTDIR_OVERLAY.

> So far this has been very stable for us, and I am very pleased with the
> arrangement. I am about to migrate our last few redhat servers over the next
> few weeks.


> So far there has only been one problem.... The ebuild for a recent openssl
> update needed a more recent portage than we had been using, the updated
> portage needed a newer bash, and the updated bash ebuild also needed a newer
> portage. deadlock!

Can't portage resolve such deadlocks? IMHO it should do... update
portage to something older, then update bash, portage, openssl...

> We have now adopted a policy of updating portage every 8  weeks,
> even on the stable servers, even when we dont think we need an update. 



 Timo


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