All Linux distributions have the same goal ... to release a stable performing linux. The difference is only in method. Now matter the means, the goal is the same, and Gentoo clearly remains goal-less at this time. If there is a goal, what is it? (Don't say 1.4 ... because that isn't a goal, but rather simply a name for the goal).
Tom Veldhouse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Tedder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Date for Final Release? Release management for Gentoo has, indeed, not been meaningful in any obvious way. But maybe that has to do with what Gentoo is? Maybe the features are the glue that ties all this stuff together and not the individual project code? Gentoo doesn't modify things from the way individual project maintainers release them, right? KDE, for example, is exactly as the KDE team released it. So, if the actual Gentoo product to be released is the scripts that tie this stuff all together, getting it all installed and working together, then I can accept it. If that isn't the intention of the Gentoo developers, then it at least could be said to be true, in effect. So, it's a little confusing at first, but one can deal with it. Matthew On Friday 20 June 2003 11:29, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > Yes, certainly terms like stable, testing, development and release have an > all new meaning with Gentoo. Release is really an unheard property > assigned, almost arbitrarily to a beta snapshot. Nothing about RC1 is like > RC2 or RC3 or RC4. They should be identical in every way other than bugs, > qwirks or other emergency level issues. A beta should also see very few > feature changes from what is originally proposed. Sometimes features are > bare in a beta, but rarely altogether missing. Alpha quality code is > simply a relatively usable iteration of the development work for the > proposed release. > > I think the single largest problem here with Gentoo and release management > is that it has NEVER been said what exactly is going to be in a release and > what exactly needs to be done to have a release. Version 1.4 includes > what? Does that answer apply to RC[1,2,3,4,*]? If not, then the definition > is incorrect. > > So ... anybody have an idea when we can have some bullet points to > determine what is going to be in 1.4 and what is left to get it to 1.4? > > 1.4 was supposed to be before last Christmas. Hell, at the rate we are > going, it will be next Christmas ... and it has been in release Candidate > the entire time! > > Do I sound critical? Sorry, I am. It is because the decisions of this > nature appear to be unmanaged and in the hands of a few ... or one, who > is/are obviously not quite sure what release management is. It is very > frustrating. > > Tom Veldhouse > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew Tedder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jeffrey Soldan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 12:53 PM > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Date for Final Release? > > > My understanding of what an RC is, is exactly what you have said. It just > seems like Gentoo doesn't use the same definitions. They have been adding > major new functionality into the "release candidate" such as greatly > improved > auto-detection and many other things.... It sorta gives the "RC" no > meaning at all. > > I guess Gentoo is a resource for building what you want, then. No a real > distrobution. But it seems to be a great resource, in many respects. -- Matthew C. Tedder SimpFlex Technologies, Inc. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
