Since we are discussing this....

I too am used to (and quite happy with) vi. It does what I want.

Since moving to gentoo I have continued to type 'vi' when I
want to edit a text file, in blissful ignorance of the fact that
this is now a sym link to vim - or at least should have been..

Now this would have been fine if vim were a superset which, when invoked
with the old name, behaved sensibly... appart from having to put
up with the unnecessary bloat, ie
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 2041860 Apr 19 01:26 /usr/bin/vim
-r-xr-xr-x  3 bin  bin   225280 Jan 21  1997 /usr/bin/vi
which does make a difference when you still have old machines
running with 4Mb of ram... Even vi seemed big after 'ed'.

Anyway, what has been bugging me about the vi imposter on gentoo is
this gawdy psychadelic colourisation....

It seems that whatever colour scheme I choose for my xterms,
some important part of my source file disappears because it
is displayed in the background colour, or in something with
very poor contrast over the background colour :-/

I don't know why other people arn't bitten by this. Perhaps it
is something to do with the fact that I use a propper networked
X terminal rather than sitting in the same room as my server.

It has been so annoying that I have often resorted to copying
files onto an old BSD machine to edit them, and then copy them
back.

So.. what is the secret to stopying vim from displaying text in
in invisible colours? And how can I tell it to stop messing
with the colours at all...

I can't find anything in the man page, '-C' doesn't inhibit
colourisation, nor does setting my TERM type to 'ansi' and don't
really want to have to resort to reading extensive documentation on an
application I wouldn't need if I had vi (there is still too much I have
to read up on for things that I actually do want to know about...)

Sorry if that sounds a bit whining, but it has been annoying me this
afternoon, so I couldn't resist the chance to have a whinge when it
came up on the list..

Regards,
DigbyT

On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 08:43:27PM +0200, Antoine wrote:
> Eamon Caddigan wrote:
> > Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >>On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Eamon Caddigan
> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>| Vim's great, but sometimes you just want vi.=20
> >>
> >>That's a shame, because I removed (traditional) vi from the tree. Your
> >>choices are Vim, nvi, elvis or fixing traditional vi to work with
> >>terminfo rather than termcap and submitting a bug with a patch.
> 
> Can't you tell vim to act like "good ol' vi"? Is it still not "good ol'
> vi", no matter how much they try and make it like it?
> Cheers
> Antoine
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