On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Michael Mol <mike...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés <can...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 13:52:22 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>>
>>>> After reading that, and other similar threads, I still don't
>>>> understand the benefits of a separated /usr.
>>>
>>> Putting it on a logical volume is one advantage, allowing /usr to be
>>> resized should the need arise.
>>
>> Why not allow / to be resized entirely? You probably will take the
>> machine off-line anyway.
>
> A few months ago, I had to recover a live Debian machine which had
> massive filesystem corruption in /usr; the hard drive it was on had
> begun going bad, and it was taking out /usr slowly.
>
> I wound up being able to recover by doing a full reinstall of all
> packages on the live system after mounting /usr into a freshly-mkfs'd
> new lvm volume. If I'd taken the system offline, it would have been
> much more difficult.

You can always remount / in another LVM module. Really, what's so
especial about /usr?

> (As it was, I was shocked it worked)
>
>>
>>>> Mounting it read-only
>>>> seems the only sensible one, and then I think is better to go all the
>>>> way and mount / read-only.
>>>
>>> Putting /etc on a read-only filesystem seems a really bad idea.
>>
>> mount -o remount,rw /
>> emerge --sync && emerge -uDNv world
>> dispatch-conf
>> mount -o remount,ro /
>>
>> Or, if you only want to modify some configuration file (which in a
>> sane environment doesn't happen that often):
>>
>> mount -o remount,rw /
>> adduser fulano ...
>> mount -o remount,ro /
>
> So, no hobbyists? Operating a 'sane' environment at home isn't how
> I've taught myself Linux. In a production environment, sure; having
> everything possible be read-only is nice, from a security standpoint.

Then why you want another partition for /usr?

>>
>> Again, I don't see the reason for a separated /usr. But *again*, if
>> that's what you want, you will be able to do it. You will just need an
>> initramfs.
>
> Yeah, great. Used to be, I could configure needed components to be
> built-ins in the kernel.

Yeah, first time I installed Linux, it required 512 Mb (if I installed
X), and 16 Mb of memmory. Change happens. I welcome it happily,
because that's how we progress and get even better stuff.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

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