Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:57:49 schrieb Dale: >>>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>>>> Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale: >>>>>> The important part is about 'if you are unsure about this, say N here'. >>>>>> Well, I don't think I need USB remote wakeup or anything so I don't >>>>>> think I need this but at the same time, udisk is giving me notice that >>>>>> it should be there. >>>>> you you never thought about turning on your system via keyboard instead of >>>>> crawling under the table? >>>> Actually, no. I have one of those large HAF 932 cases that is about the >>>> same height as my keyboard. It's just about as easy to hit one as it is >>>> to hit the other. Add in that I rarely reboot either. I don't really >>>> see the need to use my keyboard as a power switch, not for me anyway. I >>>> have one that is on top of the case, which is where it should be in my >>>> opinion. >>> so you let your box run full power all the time? >>> >>> Doesn't that sound.... stupid? >>> >> >> No. To me, turning a puter on/off whenever you walk away is sort of >> stupid. Me, I never know when I will be needing my puter and I don't >> want to wait for it to boot up and get me logged in every time I want to >> use it. The power it pulls is about the same as me leaving a light bulb >> on. So, in my opinion and for my usage, leaving it on is not stupid. >> Doing the opposite could be closer to stupid. Same for my TV. The only >> time I turn my TV off is when I am leaving the house for a good long >> while. Before you say that I am wearing out my TV, my last TV was well >> over 20 years old and the only repairs to it was replacing the speakers >> that dried out. It was still working when I ran up on this half price >> sale for my current TV. I gave the old TV to a friend and as far as I >> know, it still works. >> >> I'm not saying that *MY* usage should be the same as someone else's. At >> the same time, mine should not be the same as yours or others. Just as >> a example. I'm downloading TV shows from various websites. When I get >> ready to go to bed, I line up several videos for download. It may >> download for hours while I sleep. Heck, I sometimes wake up before it >> gets through and I add more to the list. I can't do that if I shutdown >> my computer each time I walk away. >> >> Stupid, not even close. > Maybe not stupid under some definitions, but a waste of power for > sure. When I leave my house, I hibernate my computer; that way I can > even unplug the regulator where everything is connected, so not even > standby energy is wasted. When I'm in my house but not on the > computer, I suspend it. > > When I turn it on from being hibernated, it takes about 10 seconds to > get to my full desktop. When I wake it up from suspension, it takes > less than 2 seconds. When it is suspended, it wastes 5 watts (instead > of 4 when it's turned off, but connected to the power grid), according > to: > > http://jeff.ecchi.ca/blog/2012/08/05/staring-into-the-axis-abyss-the-railgun-map/ > > Of course it would be more comfortable to just leave it on all the > time. It would also be more comfortable to not separate organic and > inorganic waste. > > Oh, and by the way, what kind of light bulbs do you use that waste as > much power as your PC? Mine uses 15 watts; it's one of the new CFLs: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_fluorescent_lamp > > It is more expensive, and it's a pain to dispose it; but it gives the > same light that a 75 watts normal light bulb, and it pays itself on > electric bills only. Also, it will last longer. > > When I moved in with my GF, her electric bill shoot up to the roof (I > brought my 46" LCD TV, PlayStation 3, and in total 5 computers and > other electronics). After a couple of months of shock of seeing the > electric bills, we started to do this kind of stuff > (suspending/hibernating our machines, using CFL instead of normal > light bulbs, etc.), and we cut the spending almost in four. > > It is a *little* inconvenience (waiting a few seconds for the TV, the > PS3 or the PC to wake up), but huge money savings. > > THAT is certainly not stupid. > > Regards.
I guess you pay more per Kwatt than I do then. I would much rather cut back on something else than my computer. I still use the old style bulbs a lot. I do have some of those little swirly things but not everywhere. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
