On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 2:11 PM, William Hubbs <willi...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 01:21:30PM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Tanstaafl <tansta...@libertytrek.org> >> wrote: >> > On 2013-09-28 4:17 PM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 19:04:41 +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> >> >> >>>> I suppose that what I am about to say isn't really relevant, but it is >> >>>> unfortunate over the past year that people blamed udev specifically >> >>>> for this. It is true that it does things that don't work if /usr isn't >> >>>> mounted, but eudev does as well, since it is basically the same code. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Who else is there to blame? We are continually being told that a >> >>> separate /usr is "broken", as though this were some unfortunate act of >> >>> <insert your deity here>, much like an earthquake. This gets >> >>> patronising really quickly. (Please note, I'm NOT blaming you here. I >> >>> appreciate that you're as much victim as Dale or me or anyone else >> >>> round here.) >> >> >> >> >> >> It's evolution. Linux has for years been moving in this direction, now it >> >> has reached the point where the Gentoo devs can no longer devote the >> >> increasing time needed to support what has now become an dge case. >> > >> > >> > So the solution is to give users one MONTH to prepare? Why not 6 months, or >> > better, a year? What for gods sake is the rush??? >> > >> > Where are the links/pointers to the INTERNAL discussions of this decision? >> > I >> > seriously want to know. If gentoo devs are not willing to provide a 'paper >> > trail' for how this decision was arrived at, and let others judge their >> > decisions based on the merits of their arguments, then what does that say >> > about their true motivations/intentions? >> >> The discussion happened in [1], [2], and [3]. And in similar meetings >> and mailing lists since months ago. >> >> [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.project/2946 >> [2] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20130924.txt >> [3] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/88282 > > You forgot [4]. > > [4] http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/235575 > > I was actually against it initially. After reading and understanding > where the linux ecosystem is going, my position evolved to support it.
Thanks for the link, William, and for all the work you have done to bring Gentoo to modern standards. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
