On 09/11/2014 12:20 PM, James wrote: > Yes, I've been all over this. It's onto much of the Apache clustering > codes that are not simple to configure in the ebuild. Besides the raw > packege codes, like mesos, spark, scala, cassandra, etc there are a > mulitude of fast moving codes written in Java and Python that need to > be tested. Java is not difficult, but voluminous. Every problem > somebody encouters, gets solved by some java "bolt on" code, rather > than fixing/extending the main (mesos) sourcecode. As an old C hack, > it's a tough pill to swallow, but I'm pursing this as best I can. I > sure feel empathy for the java herd, but hey, now we are doing away > with herds? Part of the problem with a lot of open source Java projects is that they *require* Oracle's Java build, and installing Oracle's JDK in Gentoo is not a simple 'emerge <package_name_here>'. > That said, I'm a bit stressed about 'maven'. We only have maven.bin. > Much is dependant on it and java. For many reasons, java is not well > supported in Gentoo. I just hope, I do not have to leave the Gentoo > distro; because much of what I need (clustering) is java critical. You > think I can build a gentoo cluster based on these? I'm not a huge fan of Maven - it's a massive, complex morass. That said, I can look into building it. > Does the Gentoo dev team operate a robust gentoo cluster for gentoo > development needs? Should they? What would it do? Other than continuous integration, I can't see much use (although I'm not a dev, so that's not saying much). > Clusters that perform best are built on mesos/spark. I can't remember the last time I saw Mesos/Spark on the TOP500 list... but also, they're both young projects. > But now, I need robust clustering and from the open source research > work I have performed, Apache is the Only viable choice. Ubuntu has > it. Debian Has it. RedHat has it. CentOS has it, but, we cannot > (willnot?) sustain Apache style clustering at Gentoo because ? (dunno > the reason; nothing seems plausible). >From what I can tell, the reason is that it is not worth anyone's time to do the massive amount of development and maintainence for something that they won't benefit from. > Hell, I'd even be willing to pay for a java support to develop the > java (sourcecode) based tools; but in the past that idea has been very > frowned up by the gentoo "think tank". If I wasn't in school I'd be all over this...
Anyways, I'll try and look at Maven. Not making any promises; I'm pretty busy right now. Alec
