On 06/08/2015 20:28, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday, August 06, 2015 02:59:09 PM Mick wrote: >> On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 22:47:43 Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On 05/08/2015 23:12, J. Roeleveld wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 06:20:17 PM Mick wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 Alan McKinnon wrote: >>>>>> Much of what makes programming work has been dumbed down in recent >>>>>> years so that employable persons without imagination[1] can have jobs >>>>>> and do something useful. I'm reminded of an old saw about PHP: >>>>>> >>>>>> The nice thing about php is it let's everyone and their dog write >>>>>> code. >>>>>> The bad thing about php is that they do. >>>>> >>>>> Your imagination[1] footnote didn't make it to the list. I thought for >>>>> a minute that you used some php parser ... :p >>>> >>>> It's not that old for an "old saying". >>>> I can't find a reference to that saying older then august 2014 using >>>> Google. >>>> >>>> And all those are links to the same email written by our own Alan >>>> McKinnon.... >>> >>> Ah! That's because it was I who made it up years ago and have told it to >>> lots of people. >>> >>> About a year ago is obviously the first time I wrote it down :-) >> >> Run the same search for perl - it's probably more appropriate than php and >> may find older samples of the same ol' saying. > > Nope, can't find a single hit with either line. > > Also would surprise me, as the largest part of the massive amount of bad code > (mostly copy/pasted from each other) arrived after PHP appeared.
It works just as well for php, perl, basic, VB, J2EE frameworks and any draggy-droppy workflow thing that claims to produce runnable code. It seems that only C is immune, probably because of the high barrier to entry that must be climbed before writing something useful (and hello world is not useful :-) ) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
