Am 17.12.2016 um 09:53 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 00:55:21 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Really, no one is forcing you to use anything. If you don't like the way > particular piece of software is going, you can get a full refund and > switch to something else.
Not this argument again. It's the most stupid argument (of a lot of other stupid ones) which was give most frequently by Poettering and those Poettering fanboys from the beginning of this systemd crap until - seemingly - now. And yes, it is still crap. Unfortunately I am forced to using it, because there is no usable distro for the Raspberry Pi which does not use systemd. I again went into trouble with it, if it's only those crappy binary log files. It's of course not only the binary log files. For some reason I couldn't boot the Pi anymore. What do you usually do in such a case? Right! You pull the sd card out of the Pi, mount it on another computer, and... bang! No log files can't be read, because they are binary and my Gentoo PC doesn't have systemd - for good reasons. Without this systemd crap, with the good old, very well tested system loggers I would have easily been able to read the the log files and to fix the problem. Thanks systemd I had to reinstall the whole distro. Regarding this really stupid decision of Mozilla's to only support PulseAudio... PulseAudio still doesn't work with (semi-)professional audio cards. It never did, Poettering closed the corresponding bug report, blamed the ALSA developers and claimed that their ALSA has a bug. ALSA supported those audio cards perfectly out of the box long way before. The bug report was reopened and I never heard anything of it anymore. I was subscribed to this bug report. Instead Poettering then eventually said that PulseAudio was designed only for consumer sound cards, not for professional audio cards. This was years ago and nothing has changed since then. It's audio cards like M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 and RME Hammerfall I'm talking about, btw. So ditching native ALSA support would mean that users with such an audio card wouldn't be able to hear any sound within Firefox. Thanks to Lennart Poettering and their fanboys. Just forgot to ask. Tell me how to easily get rid of systemd on - say - Arch Linux, Debian, OpenSUSE, Redhat, Fedora, Ubuntu and its derivatives. And how do I get rid of systemd on my Raspberry Pi? You said no one is forcing me to use this systemd crap. So tell me how I get a full refund for systemd and how to switch to something usable. You said it's possible and easily done and I'm not forced to using it. So show me. A nice little howto for the distros I mentioned would be nice. Heiko Baums