Apologies, systemd is in centos/RHEL starting with V7.  I just checked, 
somewhere in the last few months i misinterpreted something drastically, i was 
sure systemd was gone, sadly it's not.  Guess i'll be installing etc. today, 
Centos 6.9 can't run the newest firefox due to a dependency that can't be 
satisfied in V6.9.  I know i had 7.4 installed and had problems, somehow i 
missed the systemd incorporation.  I guess init systems is a good place to 
start some deeper learning.  Guess i made this years mistake ;)  .

mad.scientist.at.large (a good madscientist)
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11. Dec 2017 07:04 by mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com:


>     detail, the machine with centos is running 6.9, systemd was in V7+ i'll 
> have to check that.  systemd was i believe in the later versions of V6.  I 
> will check, it's been a hell of a year with many frustrations and my memory 
> of V7 might be wrong, i'll be installing the latest centos later today so 
> i'll check (i'll check before i install if possible).  I do remember this 
> change, unless the stress had me severely confused, which might have 
> happened, it was bad enough that i had a massive heart attack and didn't even 
> know that was the problem, it's something of a miracle that i'm still here 
> (badly blocked arteries, and apparently i tried to get off the table!).  
> Thankfully my heart has recovered completely, i'm a tough old bird.
>
> mad.scientist.at.large (a good madscientist)
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> 11. Dec 2017 06:48 by > mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com> :
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>
>>     I've been using centos on one machine and checked.  When it was there it 
>> showed up in the process manager.  just checked system monitor ,it's using 
>> /sbin/init, manual for init on that machine says "upstart".  man entry also 
>> says "init is event-based init daemon"..."this is different to dependency 
>> based init daemons",  systemd is of course dependency based, unless i'm 
>> terribly confused, in which case it's time for gentoo or debian on all my 
>> boxes. (yes, i use desktops almost exclusively).  
>>
>> i like big screens (multiple), proper keyboards, and a mouse or trackball.)  
>> I have a smart phone, too tiny screen, too tiny keyboard, and in this case 
>> somewhat damaged code.  Besides, it's hard to put a 3TB drive in a phone, 
>> currently.  Now when i get a brain jack one day and can run coprocessors 
>> etc. maybe  (not one of the first!) .  Other than desktops i have a couple 
>> lap tops, great when you need portable and exercise .
>>
>> mad.scientist.at.large (a good madscientist)
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>> 11. Dec 2017 06:30 by >> bradf...@fstab.me>> :
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>>
>>> On Mon, 11 Dec 2017, at 13:22, >>> mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com>>>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> interestingly, RH (and Centos) have both dumped systemd and gone to 
>>>> another system (I don't remember which one).  In fact they've done so 
>>>> retroactively on earlier versions.  Of course the continuing take over of 
>>>> linux by commercial interest is distorting development goals (time spent 
>>>> trying to destandardize/create new standards, make it harder to install 
>>>> and maintain, and new tools they don't have to give away).  
>>>>
>>>
>>> Have you got a source on that? I haven't read any news about RH switching 
>>> to yet another init system.
>>>
>>> I think they're fairly well wedded to Systemd, for better or for worse.
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>>> Richard
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