On 4/7/2021 2:34 AM, Dale wrote:
Dan Egli wrote:
On 4/6/2021 10:41 PM, Dale wrote:
I've done some research. It seems Dovecot is what I need. It uses mbox
and has some features I might need one day already where Courier doesn't
but there isn't much difference really. If anyone is curious, the
comparison is here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_mail_servers
The biggest thing, mbox. If I recall correctly that is what Seamonkey
uses and I should be able to import those easy enough. It at least
gives me a head start. Since this is a whole new deal, going to start a
new thread if nobody pops up and says nooooooo to Dovecot. I found a
guide here:
Seamonkey is a web browser. Therefore, mbox vs maildir is meaningless
to it. All it knows it it talks to the imap server and the imap server
replies and sends a message.
Having said that, AVOID mbox like the plague! It is only a matter of
time before mbox mail files get corrupted. Maildir is INFINITELY
safer. And in the event of corruption in maildir, you loose ONLY the
corrupted messages. Corrupt your mbox file and you're likely to loose
the whole folder!
As far as moving from one to another, both mbox and maildir are
standards. So if imap server X and Y both use Maildir, then swapping
between them is easy, and POINTLESS, due to the fact that imap
maintains the files on your server. So, if you move to a different
mail CLIENT (thunderbird for example) then the new client only needs
to take the time to re-download the messages from the server. It's the
same way webmail and a client can work together. Neither is doing the
actual work with the files. Each is only sending commands to a
separate server program to work with the files.
http://www.wikigentoo.ksiezyc.pl/Dovecot.htm
So far, it is Gentoo based. I found another one but it is Ubuntu
based. May work but commands are different. Trying to go by a Gentoo
based one. If anyone has a better one, please share links.
May start new thread in a day or so if no one shouts nooooo.
Consider this the shout. I can't stop you from using mbox, but I can
shout at the top of my lungs that it's a BAD IDEA. And I can say over
and over that changing your imap SERVER will have ZERO impact on what
Seamonkey does. The only exception would be if you have a mail server
(original or new) that doesn't fully follow the imap protocol. And in
that case, who knows what the change will do.
I looked, Dovecot can use either mbox or maildir. Can Dovecot convert
those to or must I use a different tool?
To anyone using Dovecot, just what all had to be installed? This is
what emerge gives me right now.
I use dovecot here. What you see is plenty for the standard install. the
managesieve flag allows you to write custom scripts in the seieve
language. But I don't recommend getting into that until you know the
language. Other than that, the other disabled flags are fairly
self-explanatory.
As for converting, you would need to have two instances with two
different configs running to do that. Then you'd use your mail client to
move messages between accounts. But I __STILL__ say you should NOT use
mbox format. If you happen to be using it now, then I recommend you
convert! Converting TO maildir is not hard if you use formail.
root@fireball / # emerge -av dovecot
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild N ] acct-group/dovecot-0-r1::gentoo 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] acct-group/dovenull-0-r1::gentoo 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] acct-user/dovecot-0-r1::gentoo 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] acct-user/dovenull-0-r1::gentoo 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] net-mail/dovecot-2.3.13-r100::gentoo USE="bzip2 ipv6
lzma mysql pam sqlite tcpd zlib -argon2 -caps -doc -kerberos -ldap
(-libressl) -lua -lucene -lz4 -managesieve -postgres -rpc (-selinux)
-sieve -solr -static-libs -suid -textcat -unwind -zstd"
LUA_SINGLE_TARGET="lua5-1 -lua5-2 -lua5-3" 7,282 KiB
Total: 5 packages (5 new), Size of downloads: 7,282 KiB
Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]
I suspect I need to install some other packages to make certain things
work. Then again, maybe they already installed?? Some may recall that
cron jobs sent emails so it has to have packages installed for that.
The guide I linked to elsewhere has USE flags not listed above. It may
be out of date. It does say not to use it for older 1.* versions of
Dovecot tho. Just trying to see what I'm getting into here. I think
this is a really good idea but want to see how deep the water is before
jumping in. I can't swim, well, I do, like a lead rock. :/
My config is more advanced since my dovecot has to talk to both MySQL
and LDAP databases, and to support compressed messages. So the use flags
I put on for 2.3.13-r100 are:
bzip2 doc ipv6 ldap lua lz4 lzma managesieve mysql pam rpc selinux sieve
sqlite zlib ztd
