On Tuesday, 13 June 2023 01:01:43 BST Wol wrote:
> On 10/06/2023 09:44, Michael wrote:
> > Without sddm, you can run the startplasma-wayland stanza from a console,
> > do
> > your thing, logout and the console would have captured various logs - just
> > as startx does.
> 
> Does that actually work now? Last I tried I ended up looking for the
> docu, and found that it said that was a bad idea and not guaranteed to
> work. Certainly on my system, it just hung with, iirc, no logs whatsoever.
> 
> Once I enabled sddm.service, it worked fine ...
> 
> Cheers,
> Wol

It works here with Radeon graphics and Intel graphics (no Nvidia to try):

dbus-run-session startplasma-wayland

What works less satisfactorily or not at all on this laptop, is Ctrl+Alt+F2 or 
some other console and then returning to F1.  The wayland desktop rendering is 
corrupted with horizontal tearing and flickering on the monitor.  I can't see 
any menus to restart/logout.  Sadly Ctrl+Alt+Backspace has no effect on it.  
If/when it locks completely the magic SysRq key combo does not work either.

Due to muscle memory, dropping in a console is a regular occurrence with me, 
so I only launch wayland with sddm.  Sessions started with sddm can be 
recovered, if I first return to F7 where sddm is running, then to F8 where the 
wayland session is.

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