On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 10:24:57AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote

>   I only need a runtime.  I don't know the programming language, so
> there's no need for a full-blown development environment.

  OK, so I *WAS* going to try the Sun JRE.  It seems that there's no
such animal.  You have to download the fullblown developer's kit...

[m3000][root][~] emerge -pv virtual/jre

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-wrapper-0.15  7 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-2.1.6  40 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-1.3.7  15 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.05  USE="X alsa nsplugin -doc -examples 
-jce -odbc" 68,885 kB
[ebuild  N    ] virtual/jdk-1.6.0  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] virtual/jre-1.6.0  0 kB

[m3000][root][~] emerge -pv virtual/jdk

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-wrapper-0.15  7 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-2.1.6  40 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-1.3.7  15 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.05  USE="X alsa nsplugin -doc -examples 
-jce -odbc" 68,885 kB
[ebuild  N    ] virtual/jdk-1.6.0  0 kB

  I had always wondered why Sun's Java could be shoehorned into memory-
starved cellphones, but required a full gigbyte of diskspace on a PC,
merely to view a Java applet on a webpage.  Now I know.  Next thing I
looked at was Blackdown...

[m3000][root][~] emerge -pv blackdown-jre

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-wrapper-0.15  7 kB
[ebuild  N    ] net-libs/libnet-1.1.2.1-r1  USE="-doc" 998 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-2.1.6  40 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-1.3.7  15 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/blackdown-jre-1.4.2.03-r14  USE="X alsa (-nsplugin) 
-odbc" 13,225 kB

[m3000][root][~] emerge -pv blackdown-jdk

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-wrapper-0.15  7 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-2.1.6  40 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-1.3.7  15 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03-r15  USE="-doc (-nsplugin)" 
33,571 kB

  The jdk is significantly smaller, and the jre even moreso.  However,
the "(-nsplugin)" scares me.  Does that mean it doesn't have the ability
to view Java applets in Firefox via plugins???  What's the point?  Even
with a desktop PC, a gigabyte here and a gigabyte there, and pretty soon
you're talking real significant diskspace.  I plan on getting an ASUS
EEE 900 soon.  And on that thing, a gigabyte to view webpage applets is a
very bad idea.

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Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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