Walter Dnes wrote:
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 10:24:57AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote

  I only need a runtime.  I don't know the programming language, so
there's no need for a full-blown development environment.

  OK, so I *WAS* going to try the Sun JRE.  It seems that there's no
such animal.  You have to download the fullblown developer's kit...

SNIP!

[m3000][root][~] emerge -pv blackdown-jre

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-wrapper-0.15  7 kB
[ebuild  N    ] net-libs/libnet-1.1.2.1-r1  USE="-doc" 998 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-2.1.6  40 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-1.3.7  15 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/blackdown-jre-1.4.2.03-r14  USE="X alsa (-nsplugin) 
-odbc" 13,225 kB

[m3000][root][~] emerge -pv blackdown-jdk

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-wrapper-0.15  7 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-2.1.6  40 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-1.3.7  15 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03-r15  USE="-doc (-nsplugin)" 
33,571 kB

  The jdk is significantly smaller, and the jre even moreso.  However,
the "(-nsplugin)" scares me.  Does that mean it doesn't have the ability
to view Java applets in Firefox via plugins???  What's the point?  Even
with a desktop PC, a gigabyte here and a gigabyte there, and pretty soon
you're talking real significant diskspace.  I plan on getting an ASUS
EEE 900 soon.  And on that thing, a gigabyte to view webpage applets is a
very bad idea.

Even the Sun JDK is not more than 100MB, I don't see the big deal. As for the plugin, IIRC the Blackdown JRE/JDK have an unpatched security issue with the browser plugin, which is why the plugin is turned off.

You may have better luck getting more in-depth answers on the gentoo-java mail list.

Aaron
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