On Wednesday 12 November 2008 22:31:52 Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: > On November 12, 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > I had something similar on my first try: > > > > > > kde-4 went into /usr > > > kde-3 went into /usr/kde/3.5 > > > > > > And bizarre weird errors kept happening. I remerged all of kde-4 with > > > USE="kdeprefix" to put it back into /usr/kde/4.1 and all the weirdness > > > went away > > > > in my opinion installing kde straight into /usr and changing the default > > behaviour is the most stupid thing gentoo devs have done in the last > > couple of years. > > wouldn't call it stupid though. FHS compliance is a good thing (I'm a > sysadmin so I really appreciate when things can be easily located > universaly). I think what failed is communication on that change. In > developers defense I'd say that we're dealing with ~arch packages here so > we've been warned they'll be somewhat not-so-stable. What I think needs to > happen is gentoo users have to be warned in big red letters everywhere > possible when upgrading from KDE3 to KDE4 to make firm decision whether to > use "kdeprefix" or not. > > Enforcing proper FS layout is a good thing IMO. Just needs clear > communication before marked as stable :)
Essentially what we have with this (the five miles out view) is that portage considers there is a SLOT and the rest of the system does not. So as far as every other utility on the box is concerned (including KDE-3), the kde-3 SLOT simply does not exist, regardless of how nicely portage take care to put stuff in it's own little SLOT. You cannot possibly take /usr out of the various *PATH dirs, and whereas a funky env script might make kde-3 work, it certainly will not work in any other environment. You either have every version of a SLOT package in a SLOT or you do not. So, I like the idea of a non-SLOTted kde-4, but the devs really need to make the rules clear. It all boils down to these two: If you have kde-3 on the same system, you SHALL set USE="kdeprefix" If you do not have kde-3 on the system you SHALL NOT set USE="kdeprefix" To hell with choice in this regard. These are the rules that make stuff work. There is no choice. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
