On Mittwoch 12 November 2008, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: > On November 12, 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > I had something similar on my first try: > > > > > > kde-4 went into /usr > > > kde-3 went into /usr/kde/3.5 > > > > > > And bizarre weird errors kept happening. I remerged all of kde-4 with > > > USE="kdeprefix" to put it back into /usr/kde/4.1 and all the weirdness > > > went away > > > > in my opinion installing kde straight into /usr and changing the default > > behaviour is the most stupid thing gentoo devs have done in the last > > couple of years. > > wouldn't call it stupid though. FHS compliance is a good thing (I'm a > sysadmin so I really appreciate when things can be easily located > universaly).
why? the FHS is a stupid standard. Why is following stupid standards a good thing? What next? LSB compliance - because it is great to be broken by definition? > I think what failed is communication on that change. In > developers defense I'd say that we're dealing with ~arch packages here so > we've been warned they'll be somewhat not-so-stable. What I think needs to > happen is gentoo users have to be warned in big red letters everywhere > possible when upgrading from KDE3 to KDE4 to make firm decision whether to > use "kdeprefix" or not. > it would have been better to NOT introduce that kdeprefix flag and instead introducing a FHS flag - which should have been off by default. The current way - kdeprefix to get sane behaviour, that turned off, changing the default behaviour is either stupid or evil. > Enforcing proper FS layout is a good thing IMO. Just needs clear > communication before marked as stable :) Like making kde update interactive? Require a 'yes, I know about kdeprefix' dialog box? kde has always been in its own directory tree. /opt back in the suse days for example. Elderly kde documentation told people to install kde in its own sub tree - and I loved that. I always hated gnome for cluttering /usr with its garbage. Having a big project like kde in its own tree has a bazillion of advantages.
