Thanks you very much Mr. Kallio! On Oct 13, 9:09 am, Veli Albert Kallio <albert_kal...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi Tom, > > I think the geoengineering foundation is the most brilliant idea, I ever > heard. > > The Law of Diminishing Returns already affects the over-long, dragged climate > negotiations and IPCC processes. Anything renewing our human pool and > initiative to tackle the climate is required. The marvellous works of Charles > Keeling, Michael Mannix, oft-repeated loose impact with diminishing return on > policy makers, much like any new dots on a temperature graph once the fever > were charted in a patient by the UK's Meteorological Office. > > The overarching danger is that the Copenhagen Summit of "climate science > movement" becomes today's Copenhagen Council, in fashion of the Medieval > Conciliatory Movement that tried to tackle all the social and societal ills > left over from the Medieval Scholasticism. Renaissance Movement came to > relieve some of the bandages of the old orders of the dark ages, but the > Renaissance was not enough to stop the soon explosion of the Reformation. > > In the past we had human systems we argued with our vexed interests. Today, > the Dark Age of the scholasticism has been replaced by the age of fossil > fuels, the Renaissance goes to right direction but is wholly insufficient as > a move away from the tight-rope of the fossil fuels to age of clean > renewables. Today's explosion, the Reformation to Come, is centred on the > subject of all human vexed interests tightened against our inanimate planet > "Gaia" that protests all the climatic forcing the dark age of fossil-fuelled > mankind. Argument with an inanimate object no one living can win, the earth > will survive it all, but perhaps without us if need be. This second > reformation of our age, will make face of the Earth without us and much of > anything else living it carries. > > The Councils of Stockholm (1973), Rio de Janeiro (1992), Kyoto, Bali, > Copenhagen, it bears a striking similarity to the Medieval Conciliatory > Movement trying to untangle the vexed interests of the Medieval Society that > retarded its social progress. Outlook is really bad. > > The geoengineering foundation will stir the political pot from new directions > and we need to do all we can to make it a viable reality and make the stupid > masses of scholastics in throes of dark ages of fossil fuels to see its value > to tackle the global warming this way. > > The nuclear energy, renewables, forestation, emission cuts, home insulation, > re-use, recycling, contraception, public transport and geoengineering all > have their place to get us over this and provide help where the climate > science movement has got stuck much like the Medieval Conciliatory Movement, > unable to accomplish its reformatory work for the betterment of society by > the inflexible vexed system primed to their self-destruction. > > Whilst geoengineering offers direct benefits on its own, it is important to > notice the value of our work and encouragement to people in the other fields > that are generally supportive to our ideas. The whole is greater than the sum > of its parts, makes this idea even greater. > > With kind regards, > > Yours sincerely, > > Veli Albert Kallio, FRGS > > HH Plenipotentiary Scientific Ambassador > > of Global Environmental Parliament Group > > International Guru Nanak Peace Prize Nominee for 2008 > > (for sea level rise risks for global security & economic stability) > > Frozen Isthmuses' Protection Campaign > > of the Arctic and North Atlantic Oceans > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:02:49 -0600 > > From: wig...@ucar.edu > > To: kcalde...@carnegie.stanford.edu > > CC: pro...@worldnet.att.net; geoengineering@googlegroups.com > > Subject: [geo] Re: I am Planning A New Geoengineering Foundation > > > The emphasis will be on geo-engineering as opposed to > > > climactic research and ecology. > > > CLIMACTIC RESEARCH !!!! WOW. > > > Tom. > > > ++++++++++++++++++++ > > > Ken Caldeira wrote: > > > > ... and I was hoping I could ask you for money !! > > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:19 PM, VNBC INC <pro...@worldnet.att.net > > > <mailto:pro...@worldnet.att.net>> wrote: > > > > I saw your webpage. Would the Carnegie Foundation fund my foundation > > > if it was dedicated to devising potential theoretical solutions then > > > testing them? The emphasis will be on geo-engineering as opposed to > > > climactic research and ecology. > > > > On Oct 11, 11:31 pm, Ken Caldeira <kcalde...@gmail.com > > > <mailto:kcalde...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Where will the money come from ? > > > > > On Oct 11, 7:56 pm, Neil Farbstein <pro...@worldnet.att.net > > > <mailto:pro...@worldnet.att.net>> wrote: > > > > > > I'm thinking about starting up a nonprofit geoengineering > > > foundation. > > > > > We will study the problems of greenhouse warming and geoengineering > > > > > type ways of slowing it down or reversing it and the circumstances > > > > > under which this would be desirable. We will fund research and > > > > > development of a variety of means to accomplish those goals. 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