It is helpful to frame the Jacobson results on white roofs in terms of
direct and indirect effects. The unambiguous effect of white roofs is
to increase the direct radiative forcing of any aerosols above. To be
precise, brighter surfaces increase absorption by overlying aerosols
and thus increase net positive, or reduce net negative, direct
radiative forcing by tropospheric aerosols.

This alteration of the direct forcing of overlying aerosols is in
addition to, and of the opposite sign as, the direct albedo forcing
by
the brighter surface. Brighter surfaces (including snow) always have
this two-sided radiative effect.

Regarding Oliver's question about whether people have looked at this
in terms of how dark aerosols above brightened clouds may degrade the
cooling effects of the clouds:

All studies of cloud-brightening that include interactive black carbon
(BC) aerosol have already accounted for the compensating effects of BC
heating. The direct heating effect of BC (i.e., warming by BC itself),
and its semi-direct effect on clouds (i.e., changes in cloud
existence/properties/lifetime due to BC) are automatically accounted
for by most climate models. This includes the studies from Phil
Rasch's group. These days it is actually more difficult to perform an
experiment that neglects cloud/aerosol direct and semi-direct
effects. BC aerosol tends to be trapped in the boundary layer where it
is emitted, and very little  BC lofts above clouds (this is why
atmospheric BC has smaller forcing efficacy than most other aerosols
and gases). Hence BC has negligible impact on the cooling from
cloud-brightening. This is doubly true because sensible
cloud-brightening strategies, like Salter/Latham, aim for pristine
clouds. These are, almost by definition, predominantly in regions
anti-correlated with BC.

Two more points worth making about the Jacobson results:

1. It is not a corallary to the Jacobson result that putting snow
beneath dark aerosols will warm climate. Snow, like roofs, is bright,
so it is understandable why one might think this. However snow, unlike
roofs, melts when you warm the overlying atmosphere. So BC
unambiguously and in all models (including Jacobson's) destroys snow.

2. That the _net effect_ of the brighter roofs is warmer climate is a
model-dependent response to the direct, semi-direct, and indirect
radiative forcing of BC. Different models will have different
responses to  these effects. Crop-brightening experiments show that
brighter fields cool climate (in the presence of current distributions
of BC, which are not strongly correlated with agriculture). I'm not
familiar with any studies of roof-brightening besides Jacobson's. His
result is plausible. Given the wide variety of equally plausible
aerosol indirect effects, it is not surprising to me that some models
might find a non-intuitive warming due to brighter roofs. Jacobson's
results show that geoengineering research is simply climate research
by another name. The same numerical experiment needs to be performed
in other models before the result can be considered robust. I think
the jury will remain out on this longer than it will on Conrad Murray.

Sitting in an airport with nothing better to do,
Charlie

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"geoengineering" group.
To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
geoengineering+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en.

Reply via email to