Hi All

About the problem mentioned by Robert that critics of geo-engineering say that it will reduce efforts at CO2 reduction. I refer people to

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWparachutes.htm

In World War 1 many Royal Flying Corps pilots were killed because they were not allowed to use parachutes even though they were used by France, Germany and the Americans. The reason was that it 'might reduce their fighting spirit'.

I would consider reducing my effort on geo-engineering when sufficiently large reductions in CO2 emissions are reported. Has anyone heard of any?


Stephen

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On 17/11/2012 05:12, Robert Tulip wrote:
Ethics and Geoengineering
Recent debate about whether to allow experiments to manage global climate has raised the profile of the ethical permissibility of geoengineering. I don't think a lot of the ethical debate properly addresses the critical issues. The precautionary principle says that an action is unethical where its costs, broadly understood, have significant risk of outweighing its net benefits.A further, if more metaphysical, ethical consideration is whether humans have a right to ‘play God’ by endeavouring to manage the global climate.The precautionary principle seeks to factor externalities into quantitative economic and ecological analysis.The more metaphysical argument about rights opens hypothetical spectres, comparing geoengineering to a Frankenstein monster, or an uncontrollable sorcerer’s apprentice. These ethical issues were raised as long ago as the 1970s by writers such as James Lovelock, with the Gaia Hypothesis speculating about the risk of uncontrollable algae blooms, and introducing the importance of ecological externalities in decision making. The ethical dilemmas for geoengineering need to quantify facts and risks.Some relevant points include ·Humanity added 34 gigatonnes of CO2 to the atmosphere in 2011, actively destabilising the global climate ·Emission rate is growing exponentially, supported by a political backlash against science ·Climate-related major events, such as storms, droughts and floods, have nearly tripled in annual number from 300 to 800 since 1980, 3.3% per year, according to data published by the reinsurer Munich Re, apparently due to anthropogenic global warming ·Arctic melting, methane release, weather events and ocean acidification pose massive risks to climate, biodiversity and human security These trends pose extreme dangers, including war and economic collapse.Ethical response to global warming has to start from recognition of the urgency of stabilising the planetary climate.However, we find that the debate appears to be occurring in a surreal parallel universe.Small experiments, such as the Haida salmon algae work, are vilified as criminal.Funding for research is absent, even though Nobel Laureates writing for the Copenhagen Consensus Center identified research and development of new technology as the most cost-effective climate mitigation strategy. Something strange is going on here.It appears the so-called ethicists who are trying to stymie research are motivated by dubious agendas.Firstly, a main argument advanced against technology research is that it undermines the need to reduce emissions.This contention elevates emission reduction to a sort of moral totem that must be upheld regardless of whether it is practical or effective.But the problems are that emission reduction has little prospect of being achieved, and even if the fanciful targets were met, it would not stabilise the climate. The political consensus on emission reduction has been cruelled by its apparent incompatibility with economic growth and vested interests, and has completely failed. And yet, the ineffectual mentality persists in some quarters that we have to make sacrifices, that using less energy is the key to climate management, despite the powerful drivers arrayed against any change to business as usual.Critics of geoengineering are effectively saying ‘don’t do something that might work, because it stops us from doing something we know doesn’t work’. Climate change has potential to cause more suffering in coming decades than the Second World War did.People who actively campaign against research into new technology to mitigate climate change could be considered as the moral equivalent of appeasers, well-meaning dupes who lack understanding of reality. So-called ethicists need to understand orders of magnitude.Climate change is a big ethical problem.Geoengineering research design and piloting is a small ethical problem.Any risks in geoengineering can readily be managed, and are massively outweighed by the risks of not proceeding. There are indeed big ethical issues raised by geoengineering, first and foremost whether we want humanity to flourish on our planet or not.Technology for global climate management, like it or not, will inevitably be central to human flourishing in a peaceful and stable global ecosystem.
Robert Tulip

*From:* Andrew Lockley <andrew.lock...@gmail.com>
*To:* geoengineering <geoengineering@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, 11 November 2012 11:33 AM
*Subject:* [geo] Ethics and geoengineering: reviewing the moral issues raised by solar radiation management and carbon dioxide removal - Preston - 2012 - Wiley Interdisciplinary Reviews: Climate Change - Wiley Online Library

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/wcc.198/abstract
Ethics and geoengineering: reviewing the moral issues raised by solar radiation management and carbon dioxide removal
Christopher J. Preston
Article first published online: 8 NOV 2012
DOI: 10.1002/wcc.198
Abstract
After two decades of failure by the international community to respond adequately to the threat of global climate change, discussions of the possibility of geoengineering a cooler climate have recently proliferated. Alongside the considerable optimism that these technologies have generated, there has also been wide acknowledgement of significant ethical concerns. Ethicists, social scientists, and experts in governance have begun the work of addressing these concerns. The plethora of ethical issues raised by geoengineering creates challenges for those who wish to survey them. The issues are here separated out according to the temporal spaces in which they first arise. Some crop up when merely contemplating the prospect of geoengineering. Others appear as research gets underway. Another set of issues attend the actual implementation of the technologies. A further set occurs when planning for the cessation of climate engineering. Two cautions about this organizational schema are in order. First, even if the issues first arise in the temporal spaces identified, they do not stay completely contained within them. A good reason to object to the prospect of geoengineering, for example, will likely remain a good reason to object to its implementation. Second, the ethical concerns intensify or weaken depending on the technology under consideration. The wide range of geoengineering technologies currently being discussed makes it prudent that each technique should be evaluated individually for its ethical merit.
WIREs Clim Change 2012.
doi: 10.1002/wcc.198

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