Gene, I share your sentiments entirely. Taking Sandy's $80 billion + with concomitant personal agonies, add to that, from a few weeks later, the tragic loss of more than 500 lives in the Phillipines, and extrapolate into the future, we create an utterly devastating picture.
Our problem is that we have no significant funding., so our rate of progress with this work is substantially and increasingly slowed down. We need to complete the development of our spraying system, extend our computations, in several directions including a thorough examination of possible adverse consequences and associated remedial action: and we need to field-test the system over a limited oceanic area, on a scale of perhaps 100km, and build the required number of spray-ships. A rough estimate of costs for a fully functioning operational full-scale system averaged over 20 years is not more than $100M per year. Any suggestions as to how to procure the required support would be most welcome. Best Wishes, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724 or (UK) 01928-730-002 http://www.mmm.ucar.edu/people/latham ________________________________________ From: euggor...@comcast.net [euggor...@comcast.net] Sent: 08 December 2012 15:59 To: John Latham Cc: Geoengineering; Mike MacCracken; Kelly Wanser; Armand Neukermans Subject: Re: [geo] Hurricane weakening via Marine Cloud Brightening MCB John: When you consider that Hurrican Sandy caused at least $80 billion in damage to NY, NJ and Conn plus the negative impact on people (as a victim I can attest and my neighbor totally lost their uninsured home at the Jersey shore) it is clear that the topic raised here is of extreme importance. Hurricanes are extremely costly in general and the negative impact on quality of life is growing rapidly. From a localized in time perspective the topic raised here is incredibly important; I would argue more important than climate control in the near term. The costs, the distractions and the impacts on humans are immense. Hurricane modification research can be a winner and would certainly enhance the view of geoengineering's importance and its ability to get funding later to focus on climate control. I applaud the interest being illustrated here. -gene ________________________________ From: "John Latham" <john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk> To: "Mike MacCracken" <mmacc...@comcast.net>, "Kelly Wanser" <kelly.wan...@gmail.com>, "Armand Neukermans" <arma...@sbcglobal.net> Cc: "Geoengineering" <Geoengineering@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 10:17:22 PM Subject: RE: [geo] Hurricane weakening via Marine Cloud Brightening MCB Many Thanks, Mike. Interesting! Should certainly be looked in to. All Best, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724 or (UK) 01928-730-002 http://www.mmm.ucar.edu/people/latham ________________________________________ From: Mike MacCracken [mmacc...@comcast.net] Sent: 08 December 2012 01:19 To: John Latham; Kelly Wanser; Armand Neukermans Cc: Geoengineering Subject: Re: [geo] Hurricane weakening via Marine Cloud Brightening MCB Hi John, Kelly, ad Armand--With respect to hurricane modification, there may be an alternative approach to consider other than cooling the areas where the hurricanes develop. Stu Ostro of The Weather Channel has written a review of this year's hurricane season; see http://www.wunderground.com/blog/stuostro/show.html?entrynum=18 What is interesting is that there is a channel that seems to control the tracks of hurricanes up and into the North Atlantic where the storms hopefully die. So, maybe an approach is to think about altering North Atlantic temperature changes in a way that keeps hurricanes out to sea in the Atlantic. And for Hurricane Sandy, that alters conditions in the Labrador Sea area so that the hurricanes heading up the East Coast of North America don't get trapped along the coast and can be blown out to sea. Now, I know this does not benefit Caribbean island nations and so this is likely not the only approach to be thinking about, but might it be that an alternative approach would be to try to steer hurricanes to areas of the ocean where coastal cities and infrastructure would not be much affected? At least it could be evaluated if this might be easier, at least during some years. Mike MacCracken On 12/7/12 1:41 PM, "John Latham" <john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk> wrote: > Hello All, > > Regarding the unfortunately topical issues of hurricane strength and damage, > I attach a press release written by our MCB colleague Kelly Wanser, > describing our work on the possibility of weakening hurricanes via MCB: and > also our recently published paper on the same topic. > > All Best, John. > > > John Latham > Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 > Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk > Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 > or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724 or (UK) 01928-730-002 > http://www.mmm.ucar.edu/people/latham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to geoengineering+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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