Indeed. The very fact that they are staging a "debate" -- and e.g. pretend its somehow linked to UN climate week -- is bad news all around. For what it's worth, they've been making the rounds among climate scientists/economists, (fortunately) only getting rejections, as far as I can tell.
One strong vote to simply ignore. Cheers, G *Gernot Wagner, **New York University* gwagner.com *Keep in touch: *gwagner.com/#newsletter On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 2:19 PM Hawkins, David <dhawk...@nrdc.org> wrote: > The audience is not the people in the room. The audience is the people > who will receive the spin about the meeting and Heartland, not you, will > control that activity. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* geoengineering@googlegroups.com <geoengineering@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of Klaus Lackner <klaus.lack...@asu.edu> > *Sent:* Friday, September 6, 2019 2:16 PM > *To:* rev...@gmail.com <rev...@gmail.com>; Alan Robock < > rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu> > *Cc:* Geoengineering <geoengineering@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* Re: [geo] My CNN geoengineering question to Sen. Cory Booker > > > You can’t convince people who are already convinced. This email offers > you an opportunity to change someone’s mind. > > Klaus > > > > > > *From: *<geoengineering@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Andrew Revkin < > rev...@gmail.com> > *Reply-To: *Andrew Revkin <rev...@gmail.com> > *Date: *Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 5:45 PM > *To: *Alan Robock <rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu> > *Cc: *Geoengineering <geoengineering@googlegroups.com> > *Subject: *Re: [geo] My CNN geoengineering question to Sen. Cory Booker > > > > Glad you stuck in there, Alan. > > > > There actually was one other geoengineering question - asked by a Columbia > student of Andrew Yang. His answer was pretty great: > > > > https://twitter.com/Revkin/status/1169441473768710147 > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_Revkin_status_1169441473768710147&d=DwMFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=hFjA8A8KwwhQx5qilpfIleTL0XYVr_fckT8DnwIEWlQ&m=10szylF6BPVKuwho3rdhaWVodQM9Cm1N-Ny6_CNV9aQ&s=EC_So8YClRsaD5YDZF21Tyxrfjvm4XG8UrOb-TB9EWc&e=> > > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 8:03 PM Alan Robock <rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu> > wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > Last night I attended CNN's Climate Town Hall, and asked my Senator Cory > Booker a question about solar geoengineering research. You can see it > starting at 27:44 on > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHIMD2E6DgE&list=PL29Rq0wvBhgOcY9ew5490FwzT5U5N6CqT&index=11&t=0s > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DWHIMD2E6DgE-26list-3DPL29Rq0wvBhgOcY9ew5490FwzT5U5N6CqT-26index-3D11-26t-3D0s&d=DwMFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=hFjA8A8KwwhQx5qilpfIleTL0XYVr_fckT8DnwIEWlQ&m=10szylF6BPVKuwho3rdhaWVodQM9Cm1N-Ny6_CNV9aQ&s=Lnkx0FkLE--5I65VGUC2Vm57Q3ojBdN1hX3BSALvH6w&e=> > He immediately called me "Sir," and said he did not know anything about it, > but would find out. Today Rutgers got an email from his office asking for > more information and I will explain what it is and why we need more > resources for research. > > I did not intend to embarrass him. I submitted the same question to CNN > to be asked of all 10 candidates, and they decided to invite me and have me > ask it of my own Senator. I spent 4 hours in the audience listening to > Biden, Sanders, Warren, Buttigieg, O'Rourke, and Booker, and was the last > person to ask a question. It was a long time, but very interesting. Mine > was the only geoengineering question. Booker referenced one, and it must > have been to one of the four other candidates who appeared before my 4 > hours. > > The other interesting email I got today was the one below. How do you > recommend I answer? My plan is to say that appearing there would give > legitimacy to a "debate" about settled science. I have not debated global > warming deniers for years now for this reason. > > Alan > > > > Alan Robock, Distinguished Professor > > Associate Editor, Reviews of Geophysics > > Department of Environmental Sciences Phone: +1-848-932-5751 > > Rutgers University E-mail: rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu > > 14 College Farm Road http://people.envsci.rutgers.edu/robock > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__people.envsci.rutgers.edu_robock&d=DwMFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=hFjA8A8KwwhQx5qilpfIleTL0XYVr_fckT8DnwIEWlQ&m=10szylF6BPVKuwho3rdhaWVodQM9Cm1N-Ny6_CNV9aQ&s=oI9BmDfO_gobnBXG9xdWAl_J87iwJ-iLLrbs5xBTTIs&e=> > > New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8551 USA ☮ http://twitter.com/AlanRobock > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__twitter.com_AlanRobock&d=DwMFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=hFjA8A8KwwhQx5qilpfIleTL0XYVr_fckT8DnwIEWlQ&m=10szylF6BPVKuwho3rdhaWVodQM9Cm1N-Ny6_CNV9aQ&s=pWQURTxtZwXVAaVHeHwfZ0_r1987v4zYGQC6RxIVNHo&e=> > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > *Subject: * > > INVITATION: Sept. 23 Debate on Global Climate Change and Need for Action > > *Date: * > > Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:11:59 +0000 > > *From: * > > Jim Lakely <jlak...@heartland.org> <jlak...@heartland.org> > > *To: * > > rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu <rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu> > <rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu> > > > > Dr. Robock, > > > > [*NOTE: This letter is sent on behalf of Frank Lasée, president of The > Heartland Institute.*] > > > > In the wake of your excellent public performance on CNN last night, The > Heartland Institute would like to invite you to participate in an > interactive discussion and debate on climate change in New York City on > September 23 in conjunction with the United Nations Climate Action Summit. > The goal of the Heartland Institute event is to broaden public knowledge > about the most important and most discussed issues related to climate > change. > > > > The event will feature up to five climate experts and policymakers who > warn of an imminent climate crisis, and up to five climate experts and > policymakers who are skeptical of an asserted crisis. Each evenly matched > side will be given equal time to make their case in a live event streamed > globally on YouTube. Each participant will be given time to make an opening > statement as well as answer questions posed by a moderator. One participant > from each side will be allowed to present a final summary. > > > > We welcome suggested questions from each side. The moderator’s questions > may also include: > > > > § Does the world really have just 12 years left to radically transform > our lifestyles and energy sources to prevent unstoppable and catastrophic > climate change? > > § Will melting glaciers release cataclysmic ancient diseases? > > § How have United Nations climate models fared in their temperature > predictions? > > § How much of the observed warming is caused by people and how much is > caused by nature? > > § Is climate change making extreme weather events more frequent and > severe? > > § Is climate change causing a refugee crisis? > > § Is observed climate change already harming food production? > > § What observational evidence would induce you to change your current > position on the causes and consequences of climate change? > > § Would action by the United States or Western democracies have much > impact without substantial reductions from China and other rapidly > developing nations? > > § Is it possible for scientists with differing views to cooperate > together rather than form isolated camps? > > > > The Heartland Institute will cover all of your travel expenses and will > contribute $1,000 to the charity of your choice in lieu of a personal > honorarium. 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