Well me Rob, I am just going to get back to you with respect to "scope"..
>
> This is exactly what I’m wanting and clearly I need to become more 
> informed about the Geoserver community process. I’m concerned that 
> these mechanisms are intended for “smaller contributions” so to speak. 
> All the previous contributions to Geoserver I’ve heard of involve only 
> a couple of developers per feature.
>
You will find a range of topics have been addressed that include the 
work of larger teams; the original user interface (and rewrite of the 
data access layer) was done with a team of 4 over the course of a year 
for example. The current migration to a new user interface will involve 
many developers (around June as I understand it), in terms of planning 
we just need to know what peoples delivery dates are and make sure the 
code base is stable when needed. I am carefully keeping the WPS project 
away from any kind of configuration / user interface concerns until 
after the work in June is complete for example.
>
> We could easily get to 8 or more. I’m not certain the impact this 
> effort would have on the rate of change and administrative aspects of 
> the Geoserver community. I also need to understand how to have the 
> Auscope+SISS development team work in its “sandbox” whilst ensuring 
> neither the Geoserver community nor the Auscope+SISS developments hold 
> each other up. The issue here isn’t so much developers but stakeholder 
> management.
>
Understood; you are well represented by Rob Atkinson who is a member of 
our project steering committee. In general we ask that organizations 
that are involved heavily in GeoServer development and direction cough 
of someone to sit on our committee and take responsibility for the 
actions that are being taken :-)
>
> As Ben mentioned, I’ve had some non-list conversations with others in 
> the Geoserver community to try and investigate these issues but 
> responses so far (they are ongoing) aren’t quite what I expected. Ben 
> already mentioned that some of the strings attached to the funding 
> would be a little strained if I contracted a commercial organisation 
> that is supporting the open source effort.
>
We are suffering from two things at the moment:
- a very active development road map for the summer; it is hard for us 
to see past the current workload (that is what we have a steering 
committee to do after all)
- a very difficult problem with a poor record of communication; the 
"community schema" idea sounds simple on paper - but is far removed from 
the day-2-day experience of us here on the developer list. You are 
"blessed" with existing well defined application schemas that are both 
exacting and presumably helpful. This is so far away from what most of 
us get to see it is hard for us to understand it is a serious problem.

The larger problem appears to be behind us:
- we lacked a representation of Feature that was capable of addressing 
your concerns

I would like to confirm:
- is the "simple" flavour of Geometry supported by GeoTools right now 
(ie from SFSQL) is this sufficient for your needs?
>
> I have interested users and by Australian standards a lot of 
> development effort. I need to understand how AuScope & SISS can work 
> with the open source community – specifically Geoserver and Geotools.
>
Both projects have taken steps in the last couple of years to answer 
your question:
- they feature a formal process that can be used to offer a direction to 
the community; with strict time limits for the community to respond (so 
your project is not hung while waiting for feedback), the usual open 
source controls are in place so -1 vote has a consequence in terms of 
helping you set up an alternative etc...
- they have form of community or unsupported space for experiments that 
are aligned with trunk to take place (so we don't end up with a 
situation like now where you are pouring money into a branch that will 
not see the light of day)

Well met,
Jody

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