>From the uDig stand point am fine with upgrading to Java 6. I with you on the need to make it easy for developers to contribute to the project; open source projects feed on volunteers after all.
Could we do a trial on Java 6 with the following conditions: - allow 2.7.x to be build with Java 6 - still ask it to produce a Java 5 target - depend on a build box to catch people calling String.contains( str ) rather then String.indexOf( str ) != -1 Is there any specific Java 6 features we would like? There is stuff I would like - but nothing critical. Example I would like the scripting support for JRuby packaged up as a geotools module rather then as a udig plugin. It is dependent on the Java 6 hooks for scripting languages. Jody On 04/06/2010, at 10:58 PM, lim goh wrote: > I personally had trouble downloading Java 5 when I wanted to start > working on Geotools. > I think when we are using technologies like Java, we should be > prepared to follow through the leadership of the owner of the > technology. > We don't have to immediately switch, of course, but when Java 5 is > already EOL, it means the Java has enough reason to force everyone > into Java 6 (taking into consideration of people who will quit > supporting them) > If we developers do not embrace change ourselves, how can we convince > the world to change with us. > I am not saying it is always right to blindly upgrade, but it is the > fact that we tried that will help us identify issues, find workarounds > for them or fix them. > > A slightly irrelevant example but my message is clear in it: > Windows 7 can be so improved today is because many people blindly > upgraded to Vista and found many problems that Windows 7 benefit from > not making the same mistakes. I think of Geotools with Java 5 as > Windows XP in this analogy. > > 2010/6/4 Mathieu Baudier <mbaud...@argeo.org>: >>> Grabbing a JDK 5 today requires quite some extra jumps in the downloads, >> >> very true, and it has become even harder since Oracle's purchase of Sun >> >>> and we formally support building only against Java 5, by this >>> meaning Java 6 builds might actually fail (sometime a unit test >> >> I built GeoTools trunk recently (for the OSGi project we are trying to >> set up with Jody) on a OpenJdk 6 b16 on CentOS 5.5 x86_64 and it went >> very smoothly. >> >>> is stupidly dependent on hash iteration order, though other times >>> there are less obvious issues). >> >> Yes, we had this as well and ended up hacking the unit tests to check >> which version we are running. A bit ugly but I did not find any better >> solution. >> >> Another field with a lot of problems (as always since 1.4) is all the >> XML / web services libraries included in the JRE. Behavior or included >> libraries versions can significantly change between Java 5 and 6. >> >> But all this is still what I would call "comfort" issues (not the same >> as having generics or not when you from 1.4 to 1.5, if you see what I >> mean). >> I'm fully aware that it is easier for me to say so since I don't have >> to maintain such a huge and complex codebase as GeoTools... >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate >> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the >> lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo >> _______________________________________________ >> Geotools-devel mailing list >> Geotools-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geotools-devel >> > > > > -- > L I M > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate > GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the > lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo > _______________________________________________ > Geotools-devel mailing list > Geotools-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geotools-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo _______________________________________________ Geotools-devel mailing list Geotools-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geotools-devel
