Hi Jody,

I am not a government employee or contractor and I don't have insight into
whether or how the CLA issue involving the government contractor
contributor might be resolved. I think it's reasonable to assume that it is
not something that will be addressed in the foreseeable future.

Is the recommendation that I remove the attribution to the government
contractor contributors in the relevant commits to resolve this issue? What
about the non-government contributors that I just don't get a response from
regarding the CLA signing request? Is removing author attribution
permissible under LGPL, and eventually GPL if/when the same process is
repeated on the GeoServer side? Even if permissible it's definitely
something I would like to avoid if at all possible as I think all
contributors (government and non-government) should receive attribution for
their work.

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 10:45 AM Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> You can email a PDF, and many programs let you sign a PDF.
>
> For us government often the work is often public domain, so can be picked
> up and contributed by an individual side stepping many of these issues.
>
> We have some history of trying to untangle use of CLAs between NGA and
> OSGeo, and NGA and Eclipse Foundation.
>
> A key thing we want established is that *an employee (or contractor) has
> the governments permission to release the code as open source*.  As a
> technicality the Apache CLA we use tends to have each paragraph discuss
> both the "permission to act" (which NGA can grant) and "copyright" (which
> NGA cannot grant since public domain requirement) in the same paragraph.
> Their legal time tried to add "As applicable" to each paragraph of the CLA,
> rather than to just the sentence on copyright ...
>
> If you want to pursue this with NGA management we can do so via Open
> Source Geospatial Foundation, they have been stuck on this for *years*.
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 7:03 PM sjudeng <sjud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jody and Andrea,
>>
>> Just to update on this, I did reach out to ElasticGeo contributors. I
>> think some will be able to sign and are just slowed by the current
>> print/scan process to submit. Others I am still awaiting a response from.
>> In at least one case I don't think the CLA will be signed as the work was
>> done under a U.S. Government contract and thus would require Government CLA
>> signature, which is unlikely.
>>
>> Is there any other recourse here to get this brought under OSGeo
>> GeoTools/GeoServer without all secondary contributors signing the OSGeo
>> CLA? Since ElasticGeo is released as LGPL (GeoTools-side) and GPL
>> (GeoServer-side), is the inclusion of the associated source code not
>> similar to the inclusion of similarly licensed third-party dependency
>> libraries, which include contributors that haven't signed the OSGeo CLA?
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 8:18 PM sjudeng <sjud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello again,
>>>
>>> I reached out to ElasticGeo contributors regarding CLA signing and in
>>> the meantime have opened a PR with the contribution to GeoTools. I'll keep
>>> an eye on the CI build and work through any issues that come up.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/geotools/geotools/pull/2749
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 1:41 AM Andrea Aime <
>>> andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 3:11 AM sjudeng <sjud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> If there is interest I'd like to try again to get ElasticGeo
>>>>> contributed to GeoTools/GeoServer as a community module.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't remember about previous attempts... but you're welcomed to
>>>> donate the module indeed, it's a good move!
>>>> Is it the same store provided at ngageoint?
>>>> https://github.com/ngageoint/elasticgeo
>>>> Yeah, I see you as the primary contributor there.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Andrea
>>>>
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