On 17/06/2008, at 8:36 AM, Raj Singh wrote: > One simple way to discuss this in the short term is to start "wanking" > on the various spatially-enabled, Yahoo Pipes-like tools. I know this > isn't as meta or universal as you're talking about, but it's a place > we can mess around with coding and not just talk theory.
I took a couple of days before replying so that I could think of an explanation for my problem with Pipes/mashups in this context. First, the points in favour of your suggestion are that removing the map interface does generalise the information to a more general context. The use of programming does create the flexibility to relate information that is not reduced to a red dot on a map. But... :) The problem is that the information has already been reduced before it can be manipulated by the code. It is no longer three dimensional, and it is no longer surrounded by the original context. The data has been captured and slotted into categories. So pipes and mashups are the valley of death that we keep rushing our minds into, because it's not one problem. It's two different problems. The mashup has specific interfaces to display the data it is handling. The information needs to be the full amount of data that was captured. So we need to concentrate on 3d, audio, video, and the real world like Google Earth's and Microsoft Virtual Earth's 3d modelling efforts. Capturing data and extracting computable information, rather than humans translating for computing convenience. So I believe a 3d environment in real time is the minimum starting point. So I could go to something like Second Life, but that lacks the scope and ambition of mirroring reality itself. Sure, I could go work for companies doing that kind of stuff, but to be a matter of routine existence it does need to be ad-free. So... free. :) Steve. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ Geowanking mailing list [email protected] http://lists.burri.to/mailman/listinfo/geowanking
