On 10/10/2008, at 4:44 AM, Eric Wolf wrote:
> together. And I might be missing a second, deeper point about GIS
> insiders vs. FOSS4G outsiders... I'll read again to see if I can "get
> it". This is an important subject for me, professionally.


Part of the problem is that outsiders can't make comments, because  
they don't know enough of the inside to place it in context. Consider  
the reactions to my various comments, which I will be the first to  
admit are ignorant, pushy, arrogant, and full of shit.

The issue is that ignorant, pushy and arrogant are virtues when it  
comes to getting things done (less so in my case, as I will also be  
the first to admit that I don't live up to the ideal "flying car"  
model of excellence :).

So there is a gap between the academic "knowing most things, doing  
little" and the outsider "knowing little, doing more". In the field of  
GIS, the more you know seems to lead to the situation of "the less you  
can do".

I think part of this reason is that GIS has been so heavily  
constrained by the technical limitations of what computers could do 20  
years ago, that entire fields of economical algorithms to extract  
power from limitations has become the default modus operandi.

So academic investigations are incremental improvements where vastly  
more complicated approaches are used to eke out another 10%  
improvement. However the technical limitations have drastically  
changed in the meantime.

The end result, I think, is what we see now. Newcomers who know  
nothing about the previous limitations now find that the limitations  
are not there, and use simple brute force to achieve things. And it  
works.

If the academic arena could re-scope their conceptualisation of the  
field of GIS and just blast away with maximum power, they would step  
towards the middle ground with the advantage of the discipline of  
thinking.

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